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Check this math out: [bible]Mark 8:19[/bible]
considering the amount of science you need to disregard in order to accept a recent global flood, i'm surprised that you accept plate tectonics.There is a fundamental fallacy in your argument- the assumption that the earth was mountainous at the time of the Biblical flood.
We know plate tectonics creates mountains, and that before plate collisions occurred and mountains were thrust up, the earth was much flatter. Actually, if orogeny (mountain building) didn't happen anymore and the existing mountains were completely eroded away, the entire earth would be covered with water!
considering the amount of science you need to disregard in order to accept a recent global flood, i'm surprised that you accept plate tectonics.
Then why was Noah aboard the Ark for over a year?But there is lots of evidence to support a massive and catastrophic flood that overwhelmed the entire Mediterranean basin- so if the Bible really does support the notion that the Biblical flood affected only the world as it existed at that time, then the account is entirely consistent with the findings of scientists.
Exaggeration? Have you ever spoke to people who like to hunt and/or fish. Pay attention to the size of the fish they caught or how many points the deer they shot was. Amazingly it increases over time. Now apply it to a book written by men.Then why was Noah aboard the Ark for over a year?
Do you have a reference for this- one that shows that Noah's ark could not have been as large as is claimed?Is it worth bringing up that ships didnt even approach the claimed size of the ark until steel reinforcement in the mid-late 1800s?
I don't understand- why couldn't Noah have been on the ark for a year in the context of a Mediterranean flood?Then why was Noah aboard the Ark for over a year?
For one thing, the Ark ended its journey in the Mesopotamian area. It did not start out there. I personally believe it began its journey from North America. But all that aside, there are some very good questions that need answered here if the Flood was only global? Namely, why did the animals board the ark - specifically birds? Why did Noah take 120 years to build this ark, when he could have just pulled up stakes and moved out of the affected area?I don't understand- why couldn't Noah have been on the ark for a year in the context of a Mediterranean flood?
What verse? This one? [bible]2 Peter 3:6[/bible]But more to the point, I would appreciate your insight into the verse in 2 Peter that I quoted above- does it leave open the possibility that the Biblical flood did not necessarily have to be a world-wide one?
What are your thoughts on this OP?It was not until we understood plate tectonics, and established that as the African Plate moves north up against the Eurasian Plate, it can close off the Straits of Gibraltar, which in turn then causes the Mediterranean Sea to dry up (because more water evaporates from its surface than flows in).
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html#buildingDo you have a reference for this- one that shows that Noah's ark could not have been as large as is claimed?
What are your thoughts on this OP?
Would you like some examples of speciation?1. you need to define what you mean by "evolution". If it is simply the change in the inherited traits of a population from one generation to the next, then it is a pretty well a demonstrated fact. So the question is: how far does evolution go towards explaining how new organisms come to be? Is there really enough evidence to support speciation, let alone the notion that man evolved from apes? Personally, I don't think so.
OP here, after 80+ pages of this I honestly don't care if we stay on topic.But let us not dwell on this subject- it is the story of the flood that is supposed to be discussed here.
What is interesting is that the notion of a catastrophic Mediterranean flood in the early 1950's would have been considered preposterous.
It was not until we understood plate tectonics, and established that as the African Plate moves north up against the Eurasian Plate, it can close off the Straits of Gibraltar, which in turn then causes the Mediterranean Sea to dry up (because more water evaporates from its surface than flows in).
Servant, some time ago I listed 10 things that would be physically different if the Flood had not occurred. I'll see if you can name 5.But let us not dwell on this subject- it is the story of the flood that is supposed to be discussed here.
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