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You really think that a six-sentence post with precisely two scientific terms - "K/Ar" and "decay" - is too difficult for a 53-year old man to grasp?Some just love ostentation...theirs.
Go ask RichardT that question and he'll probably tell you that it was the earth that was spinning under the Merry-Go-Round and not the other way around.I don't call that "debating" when I ask how many times little Johnny went around on the Merry-Go-Round and get a lecture on Centrifugal Force.
Blue Blaze!!! That's because you don't understand the principles of the scriptures. You have the wrong interpretation. As many do.
Some just love ostentation...theirs.
Celsus said:"the following are the rules laid down by them. Let no one come to us who has been instructed, or who is wise or prudent (for such qualifications are deemed evil by us); but if there be any ignorant, or unintelligent, or uninstructed, or foolish persons, let them come with confidence....(as quoted by Origen. SOURCE)
I don't call that "debating" when I ask how many times little Johnny went around on the Merry-Go-Round and get a lecture on Centrifugal Force.
Well AV has been quick to remind us atheists who have read the bible that just reading it doesn't make us an expert on it, especially when we disagree with his exegesis and apologetics. Regardless of our extensive time spent as religious people, or reading history of the faith and religous thought.
But we are expected to cut him some slack when he complains about science he doesn't understand.
It's only fair.
[bible]Luke 6:31[/bible]
Let us turn to the words of Celsus from the 2nd Century AD:
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Man I wish that I had that quote hotlinked to one of the function keys on my keyboard.
Depends on when it was formed. Some from Australia has been dated to 4.5 billion years old.I'll try one more time to add some credibility with this thread, before I gladly checkmark it into infinity:
How many times has Zircon gone around the sun?
Roughly 4.5 billion years old.How old is the earth?
Roughly 13.7 billion years old.How old is the universe?
I have a feeling that you won't accept any of our answers though.Three amazingly-easy questions.
How long is a piece of string? I assume that you mean the oldest found zircon, which is 4.4 billion years old.I'll try one more time to add some credibility with this thread, before I gladly checkmark it into infinity:
How many times has Zircon gone around the sun?
4.54 billion years, give or take a few millions.How old is the earth?
13.7 billion years, give or take 200 million years.How old is the universe?
That won't get you into heaven and neither will Celsus. You need to get rid of the bitterness in your heart and turn to God and repent. That's what's going to do it for you.
I'll try one more time to add some credibility with this thread, before I gladly checkmark it into infinity:
How many times has Zircon gone around the sun?
How old is the earth?
How old is the universe?
Three amazingly-easy questions.
Psalm 119:130I don't think AV ever asked you to "cut him some slack". And it is not our fault that you can't understand the scriptures. It is yours. You must be born again. Look at the same scripture from 3 different translations.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:14 Whoever does not have the Spirit CANNOT receive the gifts that come from God's Spirit. Such a person really does not understand them, and they seem to be nonsense, because their value can be judged only on a spiritual basis.
1Co 2:14 A person who isn't spiritual doesn't accept the teachings of God's Spirit. He thinks they're nonsense. He can't understand them because a person must be spiritual to evaluate them.
It says, "he CAN'T understand them" he "must be SPIRITUAL to evaluate them"!
I repeat, "he CAN'T understand them" he "must be SPIRITUAL to evaluate them"!!!
We are only telling you what God's word says and it's by your own admittance that we draw our conclusions that you fit what the scriptures says.
You can't understand the scriptures because you are not spiritual ... your not born again!
That is obvious because of what the first part of that same scripture says,
"A person who isn't spiritual doesn't accept the teachings of God's Spirit".
- You don't accept the teachings of the Spirit of God.
- You don't accept God's word.
- You don't even believe in God.
- So the obvious deduction is that you, that's right YOU, cannot UNDERSTAND the Bible which is the Word of God!
These rocks with their isotopic clocks reset, did they go around the sun 4.55 billion times?
How long is a piece of string? I assume that you mean the oldest found zircon, which is 4.4 billion years old.
I don't have a problem with that definition. In fact, I believe they're saying now that pulsars are even more accurate than that.
So to take my point to the next level, please explain how a rock can be measured to [only] be 50 million years old, when it went around the sun with the earth 4.55 billion times?
And for that matter [no pun intended], how can the earth itself be [only] 4.55 billion years old, when there are things out there supposedly older?
Can the earth have two different ages, as my bicycle example clearly shows?
Then I have to ask, who is being deceptive --- my God or yours?
Who's being Omphalos --- my God or yours?
I don't call that "debating" when I ask how many times little Johnny went around on the Merry-Go-Round and get a lecture on Centrifugal Force.
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