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The evidence is the fine tuning.
Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation. This data is recorded and analyzed by scientists and is a central process as part of the scientific method.
Conclusion: a judgment or decision reached by reasoning.
Execpt pointing out all the flaws.Actually you all either dismiss the actual fine tuning of the universe which is supported by scientists in the field. Then you claim there is no evidence but the evidence is the fine tuning. Then you all assert I'm wrong in my conclusion without giving anything but opinion to show I'm wrong.
No that's wrong, if things were different they would be the same only different.Do you not agree that if things were different they'd be different?
You haven't pointed out any flaws other than trying to claim things about the fine tuning are wrong that scientists have already determined.Execpt pointing out all the flaws.
Yes, I agree and if they were different we wouldn't be having this discussion...which is the point.Do you not agree that if things were different they'd be different?
This isn't true. If you know God exists, you don't suddenly know He doesn't. You may believe that He exists and then change that belief but there is a difference between knowing and belief.No that's wrong, if things were different they would be the same only different.
A God becomes real when believers believe in one, if they should change their minds the new one then becomes real and the first one stops being real.
I read it here I think, a believer is more powerful than their God because they can make their God disappear simply by not believing in it, that's not true of course because the God was never there in the first place.
Yes, it is. The fact that if there were different it would be different dismisses much of the argument.Then my post was not "dismissing the facts," was it?
Total dismissal of the author himself claiming that the approach is valid
We know that there was nothing and then there was a universe. This universe is precisely fine tuned to exist and to allow life to exist in it. We don't need to know how universes form to know that ours came out of nothing to something and that included space, matter, energy and time. So how it originated doesn't change that the values it has are precisely what they need to be for this universe to exist and life in it as well.
There is such a thing as being sure something is true then after finding out something you didn't know makes you not so sure it's true, if you find out even more then you stop being sure completely.This isn't true. If you know God exists, you don't suddenly know He doesn't. You may believe that He exists and then change that belief but there is a difference between knowing and belief.
I've provided support through various links. You just seem to dismiss them all.
I don't even know what you are referring to here.
Yes, it is. The fact that if there were different it would be different dismisses much of the argument.
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