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The fine tuning of the universe.

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And some let the alledged evidence led them where they want to go, which is where the not evidence in the first place doesn't point to.
This is nonsensical. The evidence is well documented. If there is apparent design in the universe by the fine tuning there are to options that are reasonable and rational: 1. The apparent design is actual. 2. The apparent design is an illusion. That is where the evidence leads.
 
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But that is not true and it's not where the OP is going.
 
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Total dismissal of the author himself claiming that the approach is valid and that the article you cited was a spoof. Classic denial.
 
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If one is going to claim that apparent design in the universe is anything other than apparent design in the universe, it is their burden of proof.
Apparent design is design. The evidence of design is that the design is apparent. See?


[QuoteActually there is another option.[/QUOTE]OH?
 
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Because I have a brain that works. I have pointed out numerous times how it is illogical. The post above I quoted just shows that I'm right when I claim that the fact this has been ignored is true.
Sorry? This just isn't making any sense.
 
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So, while you know "absolutely nothing" about the initial conditions that this universe came from, why are you making claims about its origins???
We know there was no space, no matter, no energy and no time. That is what we know.
 
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We know that there was nothing and then there was a universe. This universe is precisely fine tuned to exist and to allow life to exist in it. We don't need to know how universes form to know that ours came out of nothing to something and that included space, matter, energy and time. So how it originated doesn't change that the values it has are precisely what they need to be for this universe to exist and life in it as well.
 
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