The Earth was changed in 6 days

versastyle · Dec 15, 2004

In the beginning God created the heavens and the EARTH.

Then....

DAY ONE through SIX God changed it.

6 day creationism falsified with scripture.

Thanks.

2Pillars · Dec 15, 2004

versastyle said:
In the beginning God created the heavens and the EARTH.

Then....

DAY ONE through SIX God changed it.

6 day creationism falsified with scripture.

Thanks.

WRONG! Genesis 1:1-2 narrate us the story of condition of the DEEP before the creation of our heaven and earth in the beginning.

God Bless

theFijian · Dec 15, 2004

The Deep? Deep what?

2Pillars · Dec 15, 2004

theFijian said:
The Deep? Deep what?

The story of the condition of the DEEP/SPACE before any creation of our universe ever made.

http://www.christianforums.com/t1161420-genesis-11-2-in-its-current-translation.html

Understanding the Genesis - A Brief Reconciliation

Genesis, The Proper Perspective
(A Brief Summary)

Note: Insertions are mine.

These are the generations of heavens and of the earth when they were created (by God Almighty) , in the day when the Lord God (Son or YHWH) made the earth and the heavens. Genesis 2:4

In the beginning God created the Heaven (Air) and the Earth (Ground). Genesis 1:1

v2 And the Earth was without form, (Dust) and void; (Empty) and darkness (Death) was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." Genesis 1:2

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day." Genesis 1:3~5

Note: The first creation only took place on the 2 Day after the Light was brought forth - not on the 1st. day!!!

THE 1st Heaven - formed in the midst of the waters- Day 2.

And God (Father) said, Let there be a firmament in the midts of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. v7 And God made the firmament of heaven, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. v8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were THE SECOND DAY. Genesis 1:6~8

Note: The 1st Earth, the 2nd Heaven, and the 3rd Heaven formed, - Day 3 which is before the plants and the herbs...

And God said, Let the waters under the Heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the DRY land appear: and it was so. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw it was good." Genesis 1:9~10

YahwehLove · Dec 15, 2004

versastyle said:
In the beginning God created the heavens and the EARTH.

Then....

DAY ONE through SIX God changed it.

6 day creationism falsified with scripture.

Thanks.

eh, doesnt work.

It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever. For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested, and was refreshed.

For in six days Jehovah made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore Jehovah blessed the Sabbath day, and sanctified it.
(Exo 20:11)

Click to expand...

The whole of creation is included there in the six days.

versastyle · Dec 15, 2004

So..

Let me get this straight. The Earth was a deep, without form, and void? According to this definition, it seems appropriate for me to call a black hole, a planet.

And this black hole was full of death...

That horribly doesn't make sense. Because if it had no form, how could His face show upon the waters?

I am more and more smelling a.....
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Allegory.

versastyle · Dec 15, 2004

YahwehLove said:
The whole of creation is included there in the six days.

Except that the word `asah does not mean "to create" in any of its definitions.

to do, fashion, accomplish, make
1. (Qal)
  1. to do, work, make, produce 1a
2. to do 1a
3. to work 1a
4. to deal (with) 1a
5. to act, act with effect, effect
  1. to make 1a
6. to make 1a
7. to produce 1a
8. to prepare 1a
9. to make (an offering) 1a
10. to attend to, put in order 1a
11. to observe, celebrate 1a
12. to acquire (property) 1a
13. to appoint, ordain, institute 1a
14. to bring about 1a
15. to use 1a
16. to spend, pass
17. (Niphal)
  1. to be done
  2. to be made
  3. to be produced
  4. to be offered
  5. to be observed
  6. to be used
18. (Pual) to be made
(Piel) to press, squeeze

California Tim · Dec 15, 2004

versastyle said:
In the beginning God created the heavens and the EARTH.

Then....

DAY ONE through SIX God changed it.

6 day creationism falsified with scripture.

Thanks.

Here's an allegory for you:

The Philadelphia Eagles won the game.

Quarter 1 through 4 they racked up the points and dominated defensively.

Now according to your logic, the game never took place because I declared "what" happened before I declared "how" it happened.

versastyle · Dec 15, 2004

California Tim said:
......I declared "what" happened before I declared "how" it happened.

That is not how it should be read, literally.

In the beginning the Eagles played a football game, and the playing field was void and without form, and the faces of the players were shown upon the surface of the turf.

Feeling senseless yet?

California Tim · Dec 15, 2004

versastyle said:
That is not how it should be read, literally.

In the beginning the Eagles played a football game, and the playing field was void and without form, and the faces of the players were shown upon the surface of the turf.

Feeling senseless yet?

Now you're twisting it. Like my example of the football game, the first verse of Genesis is a presentation of a completed event which is followed by a description of that event. It doesn't say In the beginning God was going to create......

versastyle · Dec 15, 2004

California Tim said:
Now you're twisting it. Like my example of the football game, the first verse of Genesis is a presentation of a completed event which is followed by a description of that event. It doesn't say In the beginning God was going to create......

So it was just telling us that the Earth was created, but it never states God created the formless void of a waterfilled planet. How can a formless void of a planet have water?

This is an unbiblical assumption, and is another reason why I can see the Genesis account is not entirely interpretted correctly.

Nobody is twisting. If it was a good example it should make sense....

YahwehLove · Dec 15, 2004

versastyle said:
So..

Let me get this straight. The Earth was a deep, without form, and void? According to this definition, it seems appropriate for me to call a black hole, a planet.

And this black hole was full of death...

That horribly doesn't make sense. Because if it had no form, how could His face show upon the waters?

I am more and more smelling a.....
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Allegory.

sounds more like you want to take a giant leap from ''figure of speech'' to ''allegory''.

I have a ''cool'' car.
Does this mean Im lying and dont really have a car?

YahwehLove · Dec 15, 2004

versastyle said:
Except that the word `asah does not mean "to create" in any of its definitions.

to do, fashion, accomplish, make

(Qal)

to do, work, make, produce 1a

to do 1a

to work 1a

to deal (with) 1a

to act, act with effect, effect

to make 1a

to make 1a

to produce 1a

to prepare 1a

to make (an offering) 1a

to attend to, put in order 1a

to observe, celebrate 1a

to acquire (property) 1a

to appoint, ordain, institute 1a

to bring about 1a

to use 1a

to spend, pass

(Niphal)

to be done

to be made

to be produced

to be offered

to be observed

to be used

(Pual) to be made

(Piel) to press, squeeze

it doesnt ?!?

Maybe you should read that again

versastyle · Dec 15, 2004

YahwehLove said:
Does this mean Im lying and dont really have a car?

I'm sorry you are going to have to reword that. No comprendo.

YahwehLove · Dec 15, 2004

versastyle said:
I'm sorry you are going to have to reword that. No comprendo.

I think i see the problem then

Just because I use a figure of speech doesnt make what Im saying ''allegory'' and to be taken anyway one wants.

versastyle · Dec 15, 2004

YahwehLove said:
it doesnt ?!?

Maybe you should read that again

Made and create are two different words with different existential meanings.

YahwehLove · Dec 15, 2004

versastyle said:
Made and create are two different words with different existential meanings.

Now youre grasping for straws.

versastyle · Dec 15, 2004

YahwehLove said:
Now youre grasping for straws.

Look it up.

versastyle · Dec 15, 2004

YahwehLove said:
Just because I use a figure of speech doesnt make what Im saying ''allegory'' and to be taken anyway one wants.

That one verse doesn't make it an allegory. I'm talking about the passage in general.

YahwehLove · Dec 15, 2004

versastyle said:
Look it up.

you can believe Ive already studied this out to my satisfaction.
make-create
its almost like you choose to not see it for some reason.

It means ''make''
Thats good enough for me.

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