The Double Message of Eternal Security.

Bible Highlighter · Jun 26, 2017

I would say that God is pleased with those who do good.

"His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord." (Matthew 25:23).

And God is not pleased with those who do wrong.

"And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 25:30).

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stuart lawrence · Jun 26, 2017

There are those who just reel the letter of scripture off that has no bearing on the reality of their own life. But they insist others must follow that letter to be saved

Bible Highlighter · Jun 26, 2017

5 "...God;
6 ...will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God." (Romans 2:5-11).

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Bible Highlighter · Jun 26, 2017

As for quoting Scripture: Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'" (Matthew 4:4).

Paul tells us to, "Preach the Word..." (2 Timothy 4:2).

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Bible Highlighter · Jun 26, 2017

It's also a false accusation and or false assumption for a particular poster to say that there are no believers who are faithful to the Lord today. God is good; And He changes His people's lives for the better and not for the worse.

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stuart lawrence · Jun 26, 2017

Just think if the pop Pharisees if Jesus day. They reeledyheletter off pat. They insisted the people nigh on faultlessly observes the letter of the law.
They knew the literal words if the then scriptures off pat. They did good deeds that everyone could see. They tithed down to their last, mint, dil and cumin. They attended all the synagogue meetings and dressed well.
They would not have gotten drunk, used foul language, had extra marital sex.
To the people they appeared do very pious and holy, reeling off the scriptures. But they couldn't fool Jesus

Neogaia777 · Jun 26, 2017

Oh, waste of time...

God Bless!

Bible Highlighter · Jun 26, 2017

Folks sure like to make up stuff or avoid the issue when their doctrine or belief does not hold any weight or water.

In any event, peace be unto you.
I will be praying for you.

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stuart lawrence · Jun 26, 2017

Jason0047 said:
It's also a false accusation and or false assumption for a particular poster to say that there are no believers who are faithful to the Lord today. God is good; And He changes His people's lives for the better and not for the worse.

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It's a false accusation to say a certain poster stated there are no faithful believers to the Lord today. Bring forth the post.

More breaking Gods good and holy laws( bearing false witness) while I insisting you must obey them to be righteous before God

stuart lawrence · Jun 26, 2017

Neogaia777 said:
Oh, waste of time...

God Bless!

You are right, it is

LoveGodsWord · Jun 26, 2017

Neogaia777 said:
They were to be presented holy, blameless and above reproach (no scope for unrepentant sin in a believers life)
Paul would rather have gloried in his weaknesses, than be a hypocrite... I feel like I may do that...
No mention of sin or sinlessness in this, or in "any" of this you shared, if one is ready to make his defense by being honest and not hypocritical and really does feel he is being genuinely honest and not lying... Then...? Were all sinners, only sinners even need a savior BTW...
God Bless!

Hi Neogaia

My earlier post is referring to falling away from God through willful known sin. It never said that we can follow God in our own strength, nor did it ever say that we are not all sinners in need of a Saviour. If we are being honest we must only believe God's Word.....

"Yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged." (Romans 3:4)

"Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men." (Acts 5:29)

God bless

Neogaia777 · Jun 26, 2017

stuart lawrence said:
You are right, it is

I'm unsubscribing this thread, how bout you...?

Bible Highlighter · Jun 26, 2017

Stuart:

Are you saying that yourself have overcome sin in your life by your belief?
Surely if your fruit has good fruit, it would show in your life, right?
Or are you saying that you are sinning and yet you are still saved?

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stuart lawrence · Jun 26, 2017

Neogaia777 said:
I'm unsubscribing this thread, how bout you...?

I think so. I'm getting bored with the letter of scripture being robotically, selectively
quoted, devoid of the heart of the message

Neogaia777 · Jun 26, 2017

LoveGodsWord said:
Hi Neogaia

My earlier post is referring to falling away from God through willful known sin. It never said that we can do this in our own strength, nor did it ever say that we are not all sinners in need of a Saviour. If we are being honest we must only believe God's Word.....

"Yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged." (Romans 3:4)

"Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men." (Acts 5:29)

God bless

Truly sorry if I misunderstood...?

If every man is a liar or hypocrite (Like Jason0047) but, myself as well, though not a often now, anyhow if every man is a liar of hypocrite, then every man is a sinner and is or will sin sometimes, right...?

Bible Highlighter · Jun 26, 2017

Neogaia777 said:
Truly sorry if I misunderstood...?

If every man is a liar or hypocrite (Like Jason0047) but, myself as well, though not a often now, anyhow if every man is a liar of hypocrite, then every man is a sinner and is or will sin sometimes, right...?

Thank you for the false accusation. I will rejoice in God my Savior.

But out of curiousity. Where do you think I lied or was being a hypocrite? What post gave you that indication? If you cannot find a post number or bring forth some kind of evidence for these accusations then you are just blindly accusing me, dear sir (because you do not like what I am telling you with God's Word).

In any event, I will be praying for you.

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LoveGodsWord · Jun 26, 2017

Neogaia777 said:
Truly sorry if I misunderstood...?

If every man is a liar or hypocrite (Like Jason0047) but, myself as well, though not a often now, anyhow if every man is a liar of hypocrite, then every man is a sinner and is or will sin sometimes, right...?

Hi Neogaia777

We are so blessed that Jesus is such a loving God and is very patient with all of us. It is not God's will for His children to sin because the wages of sin is death and he does not want us to be lost but Jesus is the Gift (Romans 6:23) that our God has given to us (John 3:16) that if we have Faith in Gods Word and follow him, he will save us from our sins.

"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous." (1 John 2:1)

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9).

God bless you my friend

Neogaia777 · Jun 26, 2017

Jason0047 said:
Thank you for the false accusation. I will rejoice in God my Savior.

But out of curiousity. Where do you think I lied or was being a hypocrite? What post gave you that indication? If you cannot find a post number or bring forth some kind of evidence for these accusations then you are just blindly accusing me, dear sir (because you do not like what I am telling you with God's Word).

In any event, I will be praying for you.

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False accusation, see, if you were honest you'd know that everybody is hypocritical, compared to God most especially, but you won't face the truth, instead you take offense to it acting like I was being accusatory, when I was just being honest and telling the truth...

You preach "keep the commandments", do you keep the commandments...?

There are two groups of people, ones who had sins, some big, some small, but all acknowledged their sin and felt sorrow and were sorry over and about it, with God all the time, those were Jesus friends, then there were the others who refused to see their sin, and had the thought that they aren't like one of those people, those dirty rotten, nasty, sinners, I'm not like them...

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt...

The tax collector's and harlots are going in ahead of you...

Neogaia777 · Jun 26, 2017

Ok, I'm done...

1stcenturylady · Jun 26, 2017

Neogaia777 said:
Paul still struggled with the flesh even though he had the Holy Spirit... And he suggests that we all do if were honest...

Why do you still sin sometimes...? Is it not because of this physical body, and only being free of it will get rid of sin completely... Not saying that we can't improve, we should improve, but not ever perfect in this world, and that is just the truth and not a deception and is no lie...

God Bless!

If you are referring to Romans 7, that was still about those under the LAW, the subject of which began in Romans 1. Romans 8 starts the SPIRIT. We are no longer under the law if you walk in the Spirit. The Spirit is what those under the law since Moses never had, thus the continual conflict depicted in Romans 7 that Paul had gone through as a Pharisee. Romans 8:9 says we are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if we have the Spirit. If not, we don't belong to Christ.

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