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Really? So someone who seeks to be justified in Christ isn't born again in your view?Uh....I don't seek to be justified in Christ. So, wrong again, Paul's message does not apply to me.
Once again, you FAIL to comprehend what is already accomplish is not something "hoped for".
Take some advice. Leave these kind of websites until you can come up with a coherent theological doctrine, that doesn't oppose huge swathes of scripture. You need to do an awful lot of studying. And DONT rely on your little grey cells to learnAnswer, answer the questions. Oh right you CAN'T! LOL
So now are you going to backtrack in stating a born again christian does not commit sin?
You are all over the place here aren't you.
I bet you didn't understand before today if you observe the law you do not commit sin, if you fail to observe the law you do commit sin.
You need to progress in understanding, badly
You believe a person can only be born again if they do not commit sin.
Therefore you believe you must faultlessly observe the law to be righteous/ justified before God.
Who do you seek to be justified in then? Or are you your own justification before a 100% Holy and perfect God?Uh....I don't seek to be justified in Christ. So, wrong again, Paul's message does not apply to me.
Once again, you FAIL to comprehend what is already accomplish is not something "hoped for".
Even istcenturylady produces posts of yours to state you believe what you claim never to have stated. We can't all be wrong.Nope MY WORDS are consistent.
Things you speak for me, are FALSE.
I never said such nonsense. And you can not QUOTE me saying such nonsense.
Again - more FALSE testimony from you.
I never said such nonsense. And you can not QUOTE me saying such nonsense.
Again - more FALSE testimony from you.
I really think I will have to put you back on ignore. I'm struggling to recall anyone I have chatted to in nine years on these websites who makes such ridiculous comments as you. You have to do it if course, as you don't understand Pauls message. So it's just backtracking all the time and putting up ridiculous posts to try and evade the mess you are in.Who do you seek to be justified in then? Or are you your own justification before a 100% Holy and perfect God?
How does Paul's message not apply to you? You are down a deep rabbit hole.
Really? So someone who seeks to be justified in Christ isn't born again in your view?[/ QUOTE]
I didn't say that.
I don't seek what I already have! Not exactly a startling.
Sheesh. IF you lose your keys, and then find them, do you keep looking for them?
I'm sorry, I can no longer take you seriously( not that I previously did that much I'm afraid)
uh oh....stop the presses....ditto, we finally agree on something!
Even istcenturylady produces posts of yours to state you believe what you claim never to have stated.
Take some advice. Leave these kind of websites until you can come up with a coherent theological doctrine, that doesn't oppose huge swathes of scripture. You need to do an awful lot of studying. And DONT rely on your little grey cells to learn
Who do you seek to be justified in then? Or are you your own justification before a 100% Holy and perfect God?
How does Paul's message not apply to you? You are down a deep rabbit hole.
That is great, that applies to me as well. I am not born under the Law, I am born under Grace. Sin is no longer imputed to me.What I said was, I am born of God, because I am saved and born again.
And Scripture proclaims one born of God, does not sin, can not commit sin, sinneths not.
Don't you agree with scripture? I do.
1John.3
1 John 5
- [9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
[18] We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
I hope you cut and pasted thatSin is the transgression of the law
Sin is the transgression of the law
Sin is the transgression of the law
Sin is the transgression of the law
Sin is the transgression of the law
Sin is the transgression of the law
Sin is the transgression of the law
So?
Do you sin?
Do you sin?
Do you sin?
huh? huh? huh? huh?
tell us, tell us, tell us....
Which law did you transgress?
Which law did you transgress?
Which law did you transgress?
Which law did you transgress?
tell us, tell us, tell us.....
Your first sentence said 'you DO NOT seek to be justified by Christ'.Pay attention to what is actually being said and by whom!
I don't do the JUSTIFYING....CHRIST DOES!
I don't SEEK to BECOME JUSTIFIED....I ALREADY AM JUSTIFIED!
If scripture REQUIRES something of you....and YOU do it....it is ACCOMPLISHED.
Do you think Jesus must keep DYING over and over and over?
Do you think Jesus must keep GIVING His BLOOD over and over and over?
I don't. It's already ACCOMPLISHED!
So why when a person ACCOMPLISHES what is REQUIRED would you believe it must be repeated over and over and over?
WHY would you think a scripture still APPLIES TO YOU, IF you already accomplished that requirement?
Another in on this conversation is a busy body, making claims for me, that I do not make for myself!
I have ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED what is required to become SAVED, BORN AGAIN, JUSTIFIED, SANCTIFIED, KEPT WITH CHRIST FOREVER ~ so NOW what applies to me IS: I am born of God.
So NOW the scripture that applies to me is:
1John.3
1John.5
- [9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
IF YOU have accomplished what is required for you to be "born of God"....good for you.
- [1] Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
- [4] For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
- [18] We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Then as well, those scriptures would apply to you.
Apparently "someone" thinks he still sins....and he never claims to be born of God....so I have no reason to believe he is.
Therefore him speaking for me, is pure nonsense, and his pretending he has some superduper advice for me is laughable, and his accusations are pure nonsense.
You want to know MY CLAIMS, read my words. I am quite capable of speaking for myself. I know my standing with the Lord, and WHY.
God Bless,
SBC
I hope you cut and pasted that
And didn't type it over and over.
I don't think though, to be fair that he ever said he was perfect or thought he could be.
Your first sentence said 'you DO NOT seek to be justified by Christ'.
How else should I read your words then? Is it in code?
You were pretty plain with your words. So don't come back now and ask where it came from. You wrote it.
You make statements like that and you don't think it's going to catch my eye.
You know, even Jason and istcenturylady attempt better responses than you can muster up.
.And when you aren't trying to deliberately pull somebody's chain, you can convey some sense when you talk about the Spirit. Developing the fruit of the Spirit is the key to not sinning. You know that, so say it.
He knew I didn't say I was perfect. However, as he could not respond to the point made, that was his way of deflecting from it.I hope you cut and pasted that
And didn't type it over and over.
I don't think though, to be fair that he ever said he was perfect or thought he could be.
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