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The Doctrine of Election?

KagomeShuko

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I don't believe in this, but when I posted in one of my journals:

A friend replied:​



Where in John or Romans would one find such things? No verses were given and I've read John and Romans. I already has a discussion with a friend here about not accepting this view and giving verses supporting that (though more are always welcome!)

Stein Auf!​
Bridget​
 

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Well hello KagomeShuko and a warm welcome to SR .


It will take time but it will be worth the study , the Scriptures do teach both :

that all men need to do is repent and believe on the Lord Jesus and they will be saved. AMEN!

Then the scriptures do also clearly teach unconditional Election to life.

"So how can that be" ? , I hear you say .

Well the difference can best be explained by a careful study of man's Total Depravity.

Greetings Cygnus
 
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littleapologist said:
The three passages that readily come to mind is:
John 6:37-45
Romans 8-9
Thanks for the verses. I'm not exactly sure how you get your ideas. I think I might see how in John. . .

Stein Auf!
Bridget
 
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Good Day, Bridget

You have been given some very good Scripture already, here is an article that may help where it addresses Luther and election.

http://www.issuesetc.org/resource/journals/v1n8.htm

Peace to u,

Bill
 
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