T
Thekla
Guest
It is in the original Greek; apparently you are using a Bible translated from a different manuscript than the one used by the KJV.
Why would Christ call John the Baptist greater than Christ ?
Upvote
0
Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
It is in the original Greek; apparently you are using a Bible translated from a different manuscript than the one used by the KJV.You know it's Jesus Himself saying these things right? You find me the word 'prophet' in the org. greek plz...I can't: λέγω ὑμῖν, μείζων ἐν γεννητοῖς γυναικῶν Ἰωάννου οὐδείς ἐστιν: ὁ δὲ μικρότερος ἐν τῇ βασιλείᾳ τοῦ θεοῦ μείζων αὐτοῦ ἐστιν.
KJV is grossly mistranslated...just see Genesis 22:1 if you don't believe me.
It is in the original Greek; apparently you are using a Bible translated from a different manuscript than the one used by the KJV.
Why would Christ call John the Baptist greater than Christ ?
No, Im looking at the org. greek...please find the word 'prophet' for me b/c I am failing to do so.
...Because he came to serve and not be served, read all of Luke 7 to understand that concept and context
Who do we worship: Jesus Christ (Who was born of woman, per Paul) or John the Baptist (who was born of woman) ?
It is in the original Greek; apparently you are using a Bible translated from a different manuscript than the one used by the KJV.
Why would Christ call John the Baptist greater than Christ ?
It is found in 2 of the major GTs. The W-H does not have it.You know it's Jesus Himself saying these things right? You find me the word 'prophet' in the org. greek plz...I can't: λέγω ὑμῖν, μείζων ἐν γεννητοῖς γυναικῶν Ἰωάννου οὐδείς ἐστιν: ὁ δὲ μικρότερος ἐν τῇ βασιλείᾳ τοῦ θεοῦ μείζων αὐτοῦ ἐστιν.
KJV is grossly mistranslated...just see Genesis 22:1 if you don't believe me.
Yes, PoJ was not what I meant. My kids had me a little disoriented before they were finally sent to bed.
I meant to bring up the apocryphal writings from around 400 AD that speak of Mary being assumed into Heaven.
Writings: CHURCH FATHERS: Assumption of Mary
Don't know......but if you want to look at the greek texts more deeply, you might try this site.So which version did I post from greekbible.com? I do not know.....
So, for 400 years there is silence. This means by definition that a teaching about her end is not apostolic. Folks obviously believe it, and that's okay I guess, just please don't pass it on as apostolic.
Huh?
I have no idea what you mean by the statement "There are only four Dogmas in the Catholic Church which have been enunciated as dogmas and these are the four Marian Dogmas". First off, there are many, many more (just look at the list of any doctrinal 'anathemas' by a Council) and secondly, only three Marian dogmas have been formally defined (Her Ever-Virginity has never been formally defined but it is still dogmatic).
What I meant to say is that the four Marian dogmas are unique within Catholicism in that they were ratified as ex cathedra statements. I am not aware of any other dogmas that have been declared such by an ex cathedra statement. As a result, the definition of dogma is rather hazy to people such as myself. In other threads here the question has been raised as to what the actual dogmas of the Catholic Church are and there were a wide range of answers going from the Four Maria Dogmas to all the teachings promulgated by the Catholic Church.
Also, I do not know what you mean by "there is general concensus that the Catechism of the Catholic Church is dogmatic in nature, it has never been declared to be Dogma". A catechism, by its very nature, is not a dogma but explains dogma and other teachings. There are many different Catholic Catechisms, just because the Catechism of the Catholic Church (to which I assume you are referring) is the newest (1992) doesn't make it the best or most accurate to explain Catholic teaching.
I am aware of the various Cathechism of the Catholic Church. My statement was intended to convey the meaning you expressed much more clearly, e.g. that the Catechism (containing dogmatic material (e.g. explication of dogmas)) is not Dogma in itself, nor has it been declared to be dogma (which, although conceivable, is rather absurd to consider). There are a variety of opinions regarding the current Cathechism and I am not able to render a valid opinion of my own.
"Assumption" means a "taking up into Heaven". (A logical assumption is a "taking up" of an idea). It doesn't matter whether the person has died and been resurrected or not.
But yes, you are right, there is no dogmatic definition about what happened to Enoch and Elijah, we know no more than the Biblical accounts.
But with Mary we do know because it is part of what the Apostles handed down to us.
(I removed your Marian blue, even if it was apropos...)
If I say that the crime of murder deserves a punishment of death, does that mean that everyone who dies is guilty of murder? Just because B is the result of A doesn't mean that every time B occurs it is the result of A.
Why is the color blue associated with Mary?
Blue colors symbolize heavenly grace. The Virgin Mary is often depicted wearing blue clothing. Blue also represents hope, good health and the state of servitude
Thank you for answering my question. I appreciate it.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?