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I don't think that is a fair assessment of all literalists. Do you?... Most of the people I've encountered who hold the strongest to a literal six day creation have barely read Genesis except for at a Sunday school level. ...
I have encountered a lot of claims lately of a figurative view. I wanted to explore it.How does it matter to you if it was figurative or literal?
I believe he could. He is God, after all. - lolWhy couldn't God create everything in a literal six days?
He seems to behave like a full grown man in the account.When Adam was one day old did he look like a one day old baby?
No idea. Maybe it tracks with Adam being full grown? He needed a full grown universe to live in. - lolIf God did create everything less then 10,000 years ago, why might He want it to look like it was 14 billion years old?
That's a good point.The solar day didn't begin until day 4. ...
How did you arrive at your view on this?Nah. High poetry.
One way or another, yeah. I don't presume to claim to know how God went about creating him.
Appearance? No. Poetry again.
Poetic, meant to be memorized and recited.
Of course.
I'll say yes, but if I find it was more poetry, fair play; I'be been wrong before.
Yes. I grew up with the literal view. It's hard to wrap my head around the figurative view.Literal for the most part. The thing is, it doesn't tell us everything. The earth can literally be created in six days and billions of years old at the same time.
I like where you are going with this, but it's a bit weak. It doesn't use the name Adam.Jesus referring to Adam as a real person:
Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.”
(Matthew 19:3-6 NASB;
On most things in the Bible I'm more literal, but I'm an old Earth Creationist so that puts me on the more figurative side of things. There's a lot of reasons for this. Probably the biggest is God has given us the ability to figure things out. We can measure various things and count things like speed and distance and that is why we have things like radar, and other instruments that measure, distance, speed etc. So it would be weird for God to make something that would radically throw this off, when in general those things are usually reliable (barring things like radioactive isotopes or whatever, I'm talking about overall statically reliability. Without it those kinds of devices would be useless).
But this is important because one of the definitions of truth in the Bible is Alethia which is Truth in the objective and factual sense. Not to mention the general mandate of Genesis of God wanting Adam to "take Dominion" so the ability to figure out actual laws of nature, and accurate chronology could fit into that. And yes those Yoms could be ages of Creation.
Besides this there is the aspect of the Genesis narrative fitting into other narratives of the Near East, both because the Israelites were of that general culture but also as a polemic against some of those religions especially against the Anunaki. Michael Heiser has a lot to say about that and it quite educational.
And there are other reasons to. Historically speaking the Jews and Early Christians are literalists but there is no reason in terms of official Dogma etc. that would mandate that a person has to be a strict six day literal creationist, other than certain interpretations of Sola Scriptura seem to encourage it. But I think this is more a function of the ideology of the person than something that is inherent in the text or necessitated by the Faith. I mean the term, Adam was originally understood as being a word for "the man" rather than a person's first name, so that should tell you something.
True account...also Hebrews 11:3The creation story: (Genesis)
- Was the universe created in six literal days?
- Was Adam the first human, a created being?
- Was Adam created in the image of God, after his likeness? (appearance)
- Is the Genesis account literal, or figurative?
- Was the Genesis account based on an oral tradition? (origins myth)
- In reference to Adam, is the conclusion of the genealogy of Jesus correct? (see below)
Luke 3:38 NIV
the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
Could be both, his representative, archetypal role is obvious, but it does not mean that there was no literal first man chosen by God to represent us before Him (serving as a priest).What about Adam? Real man, or concept, or ???
Thinking, examining, reading, listening, watching.
Normal information process.
One of the meanings for yom/day is age.The Hebrew word for 'day' used in the Genesis creation account. Does anyone here know (1) what that word is and (2) if that same word is used elsewhere in the OT and (3) how many times it is used in the OT and (4) is it used in the OT for anything other than a literal 24 hour day?
Thanks ...
If we were not born to them, in their sin, we would have no need for a Savior.
Its my signature, not an answerMost men now have lost their trust in women, media and government.
Good answer but you left yourself out of your tag line, we should not fully trust in anyone but God, right?
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