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I don't mind; I got to brush up on my trigonometry.You guys are almost as crazy as Dad for trying to argue with him.
Actually, Mumbo is quite right on this. Drawing Dad out into this type of conversation is enlightening on so many levels.
Not the least of which is "math". It is refreshing to see Dad actually post the equations he's working off of.
I am with Fish on this one, though, I'd really need to see what the units are on some of these terms. Especially the God's Will units squared.
No, as usual, your parable is strictly in box. We observe light from here to there, not from a different universe to now.
No more silly than reading how Jesus and us will control the forces of the universe soon. There is no reason to assume that is not true created nature, is there??
Now now. Tut tut. I do not think our light, per se existed, or will exist as is. So why try to make it do stuff??
My claim is also that it is impossible within the fishbowl of this present universe state, Fishface. We are close on this. What is missing is proof for your claim that all things continue as they were since time immemorial. You can't just say it, you need evidence.
Well, I understand I maybe should have ratcheted it down a bit for some. But I am here for you, should you need help on any of the numbers.
For those with a bend to make things up, I think you could be right.
I, on the nice other hand base my ideas solidly on what we are told in the bible.
Jesus really did calm the storm, speak the universe into existence, and etc. In the other state, the Lord's will is done. Really.
The silly thing is, that you try to make a PO uniform rule for each star in the forever state. That can't add up. Maybe that is why most of the universe is missing in action, and unknown to science, and predicted neutron stars and black holes are missing, and they end up with the whole thing in a speck o soup, at the end of the fantasizing day.
The silly thing is, that you try to make a PO uniform rule for each star in the forever state. That can't add up. Maybe that is why most of the universe is missing in action, and unknown to science, and predicted neutron stars and black holes are missing, and they end up with the whole thing in a speck o soup, at the end of the fantasizing day.
Ah, so you are proposing infinite speeds.Well, I think we were looking at starlight in the created nature universe state. If, as I proposed, the forces of the universe were linked directly to the will of God, and His people to some extent, then it is not a one light speed fits all situation. I mean, it is a bit like saying how fast is the average speed angels fly!!?? It could range from hovering, to spanning the universe and beyond in a moment, one supposes.
(Emphasis added)So you added stuff in. OK. That makes it your puppy. The will of God is not a speed.
(Emphases added)OK. So, W is the will of God. X is one star, and Y is another. And FL is the former light speed.
X x FL divided by W = W FL
Y x FL divided by W = W FL
W FL x W = W FL
If W = Y FL, and W = X FL, and X does not = Y then either speed is W. (even if different)
That was the W if you recall that far back.
The W affects the speed of light from the star, in the forever state. Or, maybe we also could do some of that. Maybe we can add a little 'm' in the mix, standing for the will of believers in the forever state.
Didn't I get some reps from you, I think it was twice lately?? Thanks. But where does that leave you!!?You guys are almost as crazy as Dad for trying to argue with him.
Well, all units are connected to W. It can add, subtract, divide, and multiply stuff.First Commandment of the Religion of Science:
Thou shalt always state thy units.
OK, I suppose a lot of things that will go on, or did, in a different universe are not evidenced. That is where it resorts to mere explanatory power, like science does.So you think the camera has to be in the same universe do you, hmm? Unevidenced assumption!
Well, I don't know. No one knows. All we can deal with is what it is now like. But I realized something today, that I never thought of before. A real mind boggler. (drum role, please.....)That explains absolutely nothing. We want details. We want to know how light worked, what it did, and what we should and shouldn't see because of that.
Details.
Well, fair enough, you prefer to be in denial of the witnessed life of Jesus. Guess there was no Waterloo either?I'm not just going to take your word for it. Or even the word of lots of people. Really.
Really - you really need some evidence. And an actual theory. So go back to the drawing board, realise that you don't have a clue what you were thinking when you invented those joke "equations" and admit that you're just making stuff up.
W, the universal operator. Ugh.
Well, all units are connected to W. It can add, subtract, divide, and multiply stuff.
The stars were made for signs. Look into it. Science has nothing to say about it, why pretend they have some opinion on the issue of any value whatsoever????? Be honest.Dad, is it easier for you to make things up as you go along rather than accept reality? If this makes you feel more secure in your life, then fine. But do not pretend for even the tiniest moment that anything you say has any scientific value at all. Fantasy is the place where fundamentalists live: the rest of us choose reality. You accuse others of lying, but are oblivious to your own.
Well, for spirits, yes, if we want to get technical, I suppose the speed of light in the true state need not be infinite, just pretty close. Remember, top speed does not mean only speed.Ah, so you are proposing infinite speeds.
Nope. Did you think you did??Dad, Did I catch you in a MISTAKE???
Right, whether He wanted a star to shine on earth decided whether it shone or not, and at what speed. All things depend on W. All speeds are according to the will of God. No one speed is W, exclusively. His will might be different for different stars.
Well, sometimes he multiplies faster than others. So??You'll note what I added was a "squared" term because you multiplied W by itself. I also added in "*" where it was missing (you only put the multiplier in in about half the times it was present...it is common in algebra to sometimes put two terms being multiplied side-by-side without the "x" or "*", but you apparently were doing it sometimes with and sometimes without.
Thanks. I like math, I dislike 'geology'. Of course, as is obvious, I don't know much about lower math, just higher math.You do math about as well as you do geology! It's a wonder to behold.
Maybe that explains why your corrections are wrong!And the sad thing is, I'm the one correcting YOU. And I'll be the first to confess I'm not a great mathematician.
Glad you think so.But in comparison I'm a genius!
My my, talent on loan from God? (gives little pat on back)And at least I'm able to keep track of your posts even if you aren't.
You're welcome.
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