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Organic material in comets is NOT besides the point. Organic material exists in cosmic dust. No light from any sun is needed for its formation. And organic material makes cell.
Here we go --- you have no clue what it's saying in English, but by golly, you'll surely educate me in what it's saying in Hebrew, won't you? For your information, I'm a KJVO; so spare me your knowledge of Hebrew and/or Greek, will you please? Go impress TE's and Charismatics with your speaking in tongues skills --- they'll fall for it --- I won't.
They probably wont have plants or animals. they will have different categories altogether.
And why are you equating organic materials to life?
Organic material makes up the cell, but the organic material found on comets etc is not cells.
Nope. Photosynthesis didn't evolve for quite some time. The first organisms were anaerobic, and remained so for a very long time. And even then, plants are eukaryotes, so even by the loosest possible definition we're talking a relatively recent evolution.
Nope. Photosynthesis didn't evolve for quite some time. The first organisms were anaerobic, and remained so for a very long time. And even then, plants are eukaryotes, so even by the loosest possible definition we're talking a relatively recent evolution.
You are wrong. Check this on yourself. Info in the Wikipedia would be enough. Search the "oldest plant cell".
You are vague. Chalnoth made several points supporting the fact that photosynthesis didn't evolve for quite some time. 1) first organisms were anaerobic 2) they remained so for a very long time 3) plants are eukaryotes, and are 4) a relatively recent evolution (relative, specifically, to the duration of non-plant life that preceded plant evolution). Which one are you referring to?
I did your "oldest plant cell" search, and got "first plant" fossil evidence in the timeframe of 475 to 425 mya. So, what's your point?
How many suns in the universe? Why should it have to be ours?
Wrong. The first cell on the Earth (or in the solar system) was probably plant cell.
Yeah, definitely. I guess I didn't make that point adequately.First, plants =/= photosynthesis.
Ahh, didn't even think about that. But I suppose it does make sense: since early-on all bacteria were anaerobic, clearly the first organisms with photosynthesis also would have been. Organisms that have both photosynthesis and an aerobic metabolism would only have evolved later.Second, being anaerobic also doesn't exclude photosynthesis. Check out purple sulphur bacteria, for example.
You are vague. Chalnoth made several points supporting the fact that photosynthesis didn't evolve for quite some time. 1) first organisms were anaerobic 2) they remained so for a very long time 3) plants are eukaryotes, and are 4) a relatively recent evolution (relative, specifically, to the duration of non-plant life that preceded plant evolution). Which one are you referring to?
I did your "oldest plant cell" search, and got "first plant" fossil evidence in the timeframe of 475 to 425 mya. So, what's your point?
Fossils of what are thought to be filamentous photosynthetic organisms have been dated at 3.4 billion years old.
Photosynthesis =/= plants.
That would have been an early photosynthetic bacteria (or archaea, not sure which). Big difference.
Back to the issue: plants created before the sun IS correct.
I am not a biologist. But this is what I can find easily:
No I didn't. Though I may have incorrectly implied it, I clarified the point a couple of posts up.Nobody said photosynthesis = plants. You said that.
Well, it's an accurate reading of Genesis 1. But it is a fundamental impossibility when compared against the harsh nature of reality.Back to the issue: plants created before the sun IS correct.
Hmm, that makes me wonder. Are there photosynthetic archaea? I wonder if halobacteria count. The creatures definitely use light to make ATP but they also use organic carbon sources rather than CO[sub]2[/sub] or something. Well, I guess they do synthesise stuff with that ATP...Photosynthesis =/= plants.
That would have been an early photosynthetic bacteria (or archaea, not sure which). Big difference.
I wasn't aware nature was harsh in Genesis 1.Well, it's an accurate reading of Genesis 1. But it is a fundamental impossibility when compared against the harsh nature of reality.
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