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The best of all possible worlds?

Xeno.of.athens

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here we are in Christian Forums in 2025, centuries have gone by, Christianity has been The major religion of The West for two thousand years and I wonder if we're living in The best of all possible worlds?

if we're not then why? if we are how do we explain all the messy and terrible stuff that goes on in the world?

the reason that I wonder if it's The best of all possible worlds is that it doesn't seem likely that God would have made a sub optimal world and even with sin being present, and demons being present, an all manner of natural disaster being present, could The world be anything but the best of all possible worlds since it is the work of God's hands? Or is God a slip shod workman producing substandard products?
 

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Apparently it was Gottfried Leibniz who coined the term "the best of all possible worlds" in his "Essays of Theodicy etc." Leibniz was also a central figure in the development of Calculus in mathematics and his dy/dx symbolism superseded that of Isaac Newton.


Apparently he also coined the term Theodicy which is the topic dealing with the problem of evil.

I think it is odds on that this is the best resourced of all worlds in this universe. Apart from the fact the physical constants are just the right mix to maintain this universe, we have the right chemicals for life, a thin but stable atmosphere, a Van Allen belt which shields us from Gamma rays, fossil fuels laid down in preparation to give industrial man a leg up when the time came; uranium so we could split the atom, large amounts of accessible iron and aluminium that we can use for construction of machinery, silicon for electronics, oceans to maintain a fairly steady temperature, a moon which stablilises our orbit, our position in the Milky Way so we are in a fairly dust free part which enables us to peer out into the universe and so on.

If we wreck this planet, I very much doubt that we're going to find another one anything like it no matter how technically advanced our civilisation might become. In that respect I think this will prove to be the "best (resourced) of all possible worlds" in this universe.

The problem of evil is harder to justify as one facet of "the best of all possible worlds".
 
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The problem of evil is the heart of God's plan to show forth his glory through the glory of the Son.
 
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