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I read "not worthy".
Why are you using words with already specific connotations, meanings and definitions (supernatural, etc) and applying them to things that are not compatible with those specific connotations, meanings and definitions?
This seems rather dishonest.
Why did Jesus, the Son, come to earth and die on that Cross?
Why did Jesus, the Son, come to earth and die on that Cross?
Actually, you might want to look up "pantheism" and "panentheism". Hinduism is a pantheistic religion. It is thousands of years older than Christianity or even Judaism. Or read "The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are", by Alan Watts.So according to your definition, everything that exists is God; You and I included. The rocks on the ground, the stray dogs that roam the neighborhood, trees, cars, garbage, everything that exists is God which makes the term God meaningless. Obviously you know that nobody else has such a definition of God but if thats where you want to take it; knock yourself out my friend!
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Ken
no, I presume to know, by Holy Scripture, why every non-Christian is a non-Christian...atheists are no different than Buddhists in this concept.
Worshiping the statue of the fat man or the fat man in the mirror is really the same worship when you strip off the worthless self rationalization.
no, I presume to know, by Holy Scripture, why every non-Christian is a non-Christian...atheists are no different than Buddhists in this concept.
Worshiping the statue of the fat man or the fat man in the mirror is really the same worship when you strip off the worthless self rationalization.
Why did Jesus, the Son, come to earth and die on that Cross?
Actually, you might want to look up "pantheism" and "panentheism". Hinduism is a pantheistic religion. It is thousands of years older than Christianity or even Judaism. Or read "The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are", by Alan Watts.
I am repeatedly amazed at the ignorance of Christians about religion, even their own. Then I remember: Thinking is difficult, and it tires the brain, so most people think only to the point where they get tired, and then stop thinking. They form an opinion, decide that it is true, and never have to think again. The opinion they form is nearly always one that is useful to them, emotionally or economically. (Now Jesus said that you can't serve both God and money, but most Christians know that you have to be practical.)
Who's to say he did? Do you have evidence to show he:
A) Existed at all
B) Was the son of God
C) Died on a cross
I'm not aware of any, Please enlighten me if you have some.
I will start a thread on the Historicity of Jesus if it is necessary. To speak on it here would be to detract from the OP.
Suffice it to say, in light of the available evidence, there is very good reason to accept that Jesus was an actual historical figure.
Historical figure, perhaps. I don't think it's unreasonable to say there was a first century preacher in Israel named Jesus
However, I do think it's unreasonable to assume that person walked on water, turned water into wine, fed the masses with a loaf of bread, healed lepers and rose from the dead three days after he was crucified. Claims like that will certainly require solid evidence to be taken seriously.
I agree wholeheartedly with everything you have just said!
Yes indeed it is very unreasonable to assume that a person could do all that you just listed. For the simple fact that these things are impossible for a person to do. (I am saying this based on the general observations of human ability with regards to the acts in question. I have never seen anyone walk on water or rise from the dead, nor do I know anyone who has seen anyone do these things.) Now I confess that my knowledge is not all-encompassing, nor do I admit to having empirical evidence to prove my assertion that it is impossible for a mere man to do all of these things is true.
I am simply saying that from my experience as a human, I have never seen anyone perform any of these miracles or supernatural manifestations of power over nature. And I believe I am justified in making this assertion despite being able to categorically prove it to be true.
To just assume that He did without seeking to better understand why it is maintained that He did, is a dangerous position to take because when taking this position, one could also end up believing anything!
I agree wholeheartedly with everything you have just said!
Yes indeed it is very unreasonable to assume that a person could do all that you just listed. For the simple fact that these things are impossible for a person to do. (I am saying this based on the general observations of human ability with regards to the acts in question. I have never seen anyone walk on water or rise from the dead, nor do I know anyone who has seen anyone do these things.) Now I confess that my knowledge is not all-encompassing, nor do I admit to having empirical evidence to prove my assertion that it is impossible for a mere man to do all of these things is true.
I am simply saying that from my experience as a human, I have never seen anyone perform any of these miracles or supernatural manifestations of power over nature. And I believe I am justified in making this assertion despite being able to categorically prove it to be true.
To just assume that He did without seeking to better understand why it is maintained that He did, is a dangerous position to take because when taking this position, one could also end up believing anything!
Well I put everything that exists above the worship of your God which according to your definition, means I worship the dirt I walk on, the stray dogs that roam the neighborhood, the garbage cans they knock over, plus everything else I mentioned. So according to your definition, the term worship has no meaning at all; the word might as well not even exist.nope...that isn't what I am saying at all. There is only one God, the great I AM. Anything or anyone an individual puts above the one God is idol worship...the worship of a false god
no, I presume to know, by Holy Scripture, why every non-Christian is a non-Christian
Worshiping the statue of the fat man or the fat man in the mirror is really the same worship when you strip off the worthless self rationalization.
You presume incorrectly. Your sweeping assertions are wrong regardless of how you claim to know and by what source. You do not know why I am an atheist. You have not asked. It has nothing to do with selfishness, worshipping something else or any other such rot.no, I presume to know, by Holy Scripture, why every non-Christian is a non-Christian...atheists are no different than Buddhists in this concept.
I cannot speak for atheists as if it's some sort of bloc with a shared belief system. The only thing atheists have in common is lack of belief in a deity or deities. One could call many Buddhists "atheists" and you'd be technically correct. Atheism in and of itself does not imply any particular metaphysical belief; heck, I've met atheists who believe in ghosts and all that.
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