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Oh, yeah, I agree that it's weird, but it basically means that I don't think we know enough to know if there's a higher being, but if you held me at gunpoint and told me I had to choose, I'd say that there isn't.Can those two terms even exist side by side like that?
WHY YOU MAKE BRAIN HURT?! XD
But neither atheist nor theists is as free and as liberal as the deist. Deist is the only one which can comply fully to both parties thus allowing more radical forms of thought to occur.
The theist wants pie(god) and the atheist wants cake(naturalistic reason). I want both. Us Deist are a greedy people
No offense, but Deism strikes me as very boring -- almost as much as atheism. But if you find it fun, more power to you.
eudaimonia,
Mark
Oh, yeah, I agree that it's weird, but it basically means that I don't think we know enough to know if there's a higher being, but if you held me at gunpoint and told me I had to choose, I'd say that there isn't.
Here's a pretty diagram:
It sounds pretty fun for the watchmaker, to be honest.No offense, but Deism strikes me as very boring -- almost as much as atheism. But if you find it fun, more power to you.
It sounds pretty fun for the watchmaker, to be honest.
I suppose so! Maybe I should be in that line of work. Guess I didn't win the cosmic lottery.
eudaimonia,
Mark
Your comparison would be valid if you knew of a parallel universe in which God exists and therefore concluded that he exists in this one.
Yes but I'm not talking about God existing . I'm talking about atheists who claim alien life is possible when there is zero evidence for alien life. They deny God exists based on the same criteria. Why is belief in aliens more likely than God? Sure, the whole probability issue but probability isn't actuality. It doesn't really matter if God actually exists in this argument because we are talking about why Gods existence is denied.
Yes but I'm not talking about God existing . I'm talking about atheists who claim alien life is possible when there is zero evidence for alien life. They deny God exists based on the same criteria. Why is belief in aliens more likely than God? Sure, the whole probability issue but probability isn't actuality. It doesn't really matter if God actually exists in this argument because we are talking about why Gods existence is denied.
Perhaps I'm not reading you right......
You're not understanding what I'm saying. We live on a planet that allows for life, and we know for a fact that there are a mind-boggling number of planets in the universe. Accepting that there's probably life on another planet is a mathematical conclusion. It is purely based on observations. The only statement that doesn't fit with being an atheist is the claim that there is definitely intelligent life on another planet.Yes but I'm not talking about God existing . I'm talking about atheists who claim alien life is possible when there is zero evidence for alien life. They deny God exists based on the same criteria. Why is belief in aliens more likely than God? Sure, the whole probability issue but probability isn't actuality. It doesn't really matter if God actually exists in this argument because we are talking about why Gods existence is denied.
Perhaps I'm not reading you right......
You're not understanding what I'm saying. We live on a planet that allows for life, and we know for a fact that there are a mind-boggling number of planets in the universe. Accepting that there's probably life on another planet is a mathematical conclusion. It is purely based on observations. The only statement that doesn't fit with being an atheist is the claim that there is definitely intelligent life on another planet.
I don't know why you're connecting the existence of cosmic bodies that could sustain life to a belief in deities. Is this like when people try to debunk science and logic by saying it's just another faith?
You're not understanding what I'm saying. We live on a planet that allows for life, and we know for a fact that there are a mind-boggling number of planets in the universe. Accepting that there's probably life on another planet is a mathematical conclusion. It is purely based on observations. The only statement that doesn't fit with being an atheist is the claim that there is definitely intelligent life on another planet.
I don't know why you're connecting the existence of cosmic bodies that could sustain life to a belief in deities. Is this like when people try to debunk science and logic by saying it's just another faith?
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