% that accept evolution per state

florida2 · Jul 12, 2014

AV1611VET said:
Just don't tell me there's "no connection to" and expect me to believe it.

Fine, let's take paying taxes as a 'connection'

From what you say, either we do as Jesus said and pay our taxes but render ourselves liable for whatever those politicians do (you can't honestly say an average person has any influence over the President) and from that list you present we then are liable to be randomly killed by God (who mysteriously always spares the politicians)

The second option is that we don't pay our taxes and therefore have no connection to the politicians. However, if we do that we'd be breaking the law and disobeying a direct teaching of Jesus.

Is that really what you believe?

Split Rock · Jul 12, 2014

AV1611VET said:
Just don't tell me there's "no connection to" and expect me to believe it.

There isn't any. You just believe what you like believing.

ViaCrucis · Jul 12, 2014

AV1611VET said:
Just don't tell me there's "no connection to" and expect me to believe it.

When your god hates all the same people you hate, we can be pretty confident that it's no god at all.

My golden calf only likes the people I like, and hates all the people I hate. My golden calf is so like me, and I love me!

-CryptoLutheran

DogmaHunter · Jul 12, 2014

AV1611VET said:
Just don't tell me there's "no connection to" and expect me to believe it.

Don't tell me there's no connection with you wasting on CF and the tsunami in japan and expect me to believe it.

Strathos · Jul 12, 2014

That little exercise in correlation = causation fallacies also ignores Matthew 5:9

createdtoworship · Jul 12, 2014

CabVet said:
So, I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the states that have less people that accept evolution are those with most fundamental Christians, right? Since those people are all blessed, their states should also be the ones with the best economy and quality of life and lower crime rates, right?

I come from a dark green state. But most of the Christians I know of are ID/creationists. (one or the other).

I do know of over 800 scientists that reject evolution:

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?id=660
and here is an abbreviated version of 100 key scientists:
http://www.discovery.org/articleFiles/PDFs/100ScientistsAd.pdf

Split Rock · Jul 12, 2014

gradyll said:
I come from a dark green state. But most of the Christians I know of are ID/creationists. (one or the other).

I do know of over 800 scientists that reject evolution:

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?id=660

And I "know" (as if you actually know any of them) tens of thousands of scientists that do not reject evolution. I win!!

USincognito · Jul 12, 2014

gradyll said:
I do know of over 800 scientists that reject evolution:

I picked one at random - Clarence Fouche. He's a retired professor of Biology, not a working scientist. He also hasn't published any papers since 1977.
http://www.vic.edu/creasey-fouche-retire-after-65-years-at-vi/

AV1611VET · Jul 12, 2014

USincognito said:
He also hasn't published any papers since 1977.

Ya ... I heard they didn't believe in evolution back then, either.

Is he supposed to have changed his mind since then?

createdtoworship · Jul 12, 2014

Split Rock said:
And I "know" (as if you actually know any of them) tens of thousands of scientists that do not reject evolution. I win!!

Prove it:

my sources say 46% of general population hold to creationism:
In U.S., 46% Hold Creationist View of Human Origins

I would expect similiar results had gallup pole surveyed scientists.

again my list included 800 scientists that adhere to non darwinian views.

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?id=660

createdtoworship · Jul 12, 2014

USincognito said:
I picked one at random - Clarence Fouche. He's a retired professor of Biology, not a working scientist. He also hasn't published any papers since 1977.
Creasey, Fouche Retire After 65 Years at VI | Virginia Intermont College | Private Liberal Arts College in Bristol, Virginia

thats okay, only one of many hundreds who are not retired. Mute point.

createdtoworship · Jul 12, 2014

I must ask a question, how many real scientists believe in darwinian evolution? Does anyone even know?

Strathos · Jul 12, 2014

gradyll said:
I must ask a question, how many real scientists believe in darwinian evolution? Does anyone even know?

Define "real scientists"

createdtoworship · Jul 12, 2014

Strathos said:
Define "real scientists"

those who are employed in the field of empirical sciences (at the phd level)

AV1611VET · Jul 12, 2014

% that are atheists after the Great White Throne Judgment by state

Split Rock · Jul 12, 2014

gradyll said:
Prove it:

my sources say 46% of general population hold to creationism:
In U.S., 46% Hold Creationist View of Human Origins

I would expect similiar results had gallup pole surveyed scientists.

Why would you expect scientists to hold a non-scientifc view that laymen tend to believe??

gradyll said:
again my list included 800 scientists that adhere to non darwinian views.

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?id=660

Funny that you use that old questionaire. It is not one that indicates "rejection of evolution," at all. Perhaps, to some extent "Darwinism" (which I noticed you switched to) if you consider "Darwinism" to be only what Darwin spoke about (only natural selection). Of course, even Darwin would agree with the later part of it. Many scientists who accept evolution agreed with that statement, since most biologists accept mechanisms other than natural selection, and believe skeptisism is always appropriate. In fact, if I didn't know it was a loaded question that would be misused the way you misused it (as was the dishonest intention all along), I would sign it as well.

Split Rock · Jul 12, 2014

gradyll said:
I must ask a question, how many real scientists believe in darwinian evolution? Does anyone even know?

Define "Darwinian evolution."

createdtoworship · Jul 12, 2014

Split Rock said:
Why would you expect scientists to hold a non-scientifc view that laymen tend to believe??

Funny that you use that old questionaire. It is not one that indicates "rejection of evolution," at all. Perhaps, to some extent "Darwinism" (which I noticed you switched to) if you consider "Darwinism" to be only what Darwin spoke about (only natural selection). Of course, even Darwin would agree with the later part of it. Many scientists who accept evolution agreed with that statement, since most biologists accept mechanisms other than natural selection, and believe skeptisism is always appropriate. In fact, if I didn't know it was a loaded question that would be misused the way you misused it (as was the dishonest intention all along), I would sign it as well.

I do not even need to comment, on your post. Your negativity answers for itself. Why are you running, if you didn't do anything wrong (says the police officer)

createdtoworship · Jul 12, 2014

Split Rock said:
Define "Darwinian evolution."

simple: the ability of random mutation and natural
selection to account for the complexity of life

createdtoworship · Jul 12, 2014

gradyll said:
I must ask a question, how many real scientists believe in darwinian evolution? Does anyone even know?

hold your breath, for a long time! Still waiting...it's been a half-hour.

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