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Hey you leave Chronos out of this !!!So then you have faith in your god "time"? I will chose to put my faith in God the creator of ALL things.
So then you have faith in your god "time"?
Yes.So you are saying that God can do things that, to us, would appear to be logical impossibilities?
Please, just a yes or a no.
Yes.
Meh --- he is probably going to come back with:I guess that gives you an alibi for ignoring reality. Just what you needed too!
I'll say 'yes' to that --- but I'm not sure.Is God able to go back in time and change what was written in Genesis?
I believe God provides the information and direction to all life. Some believe nature does this all on its own by chance, without any outside influence. Thats why I said, I will put my faith in God.
I'll say 'yes' to that --- but I'm not sure.
His Word is unchanging, and Genesis was written down in Heaven before it was written down on earth.
Meh --- he is probably going to come back with:
We'll see.
- Can God build a rock so heavy He can't lift it?
Yes.
Hey you leave Chronos out of this !!!
all joking aside, don't you find it odd that god only appears in the very book he claims to have written. If your confused, so am I.
meshach your tactic of butcher the word 'faith' only hurts yourself so keep at. One of these days faith wont mean anything.
Well, gramps gained a story he could tell when the kiddies were gathered round the fire. Nobody believed it of course, except the kiddies, who didn't yet appreciate what a liar gramps was, and cousin Jake, of course, who was always rather slow.Why did God destroy his creation by flooding it instead of just snapping his fingers to do it? And why did he decide to save parts of that creation by having Noah take it on the ark instead of just deciding that those bits were to be saved? Why go to all the effort of an ark, all that water, getting animals from all over the world, poor Noah's effort to build the ark etc when God could have accomplished it all for much less effort and time by just snapping his fingers? What was gained?
Meshach said:"Faith" is a very powerful and necessary need in God's plan for us. For with it we show our love and respect and trust for Him.
So you are wrong in saying one of these days faith wont mean anything. But one day will there be any?
Tiberius said:Why did God destroy his creation by flooding it instead of just snapping his fingers to do it?
IT BUILDS CHARACTERWhy go to all the effort of an ark, all that water, getting animals from all over the world, poor Noah's effort to build the ark etc when God could have accomplished it all for much less effort and time by just snapping his fingers? What was gained?
This is silly Hovind-esque nonsense. There's no faith in "time" required to conclude that life on Earth looks like the product of evolution. Rather, it's the combined data from genetic, morphological, paleontological and biogeographical analyses. The data points to evolution.
Evolution needs billions of years to get to where we are now right? If so that is time, lots of it. Without lots of time evolution cannot be.
Time is the driving force behind the theory. Time is as neccessary to evolution as faith is to the believer. You cannot prove without a shadow of a doubt that all that time was actually there, therefore it takes a measure of faith to not only believe that time was there, but that during all this time all these random mutations took place to give us the complexity, variety, beauty, information and well designed working life forms that we see all around us today.
All through these forums those that do not believe in God not only mock Him and His Word but those that stand for Him as well. God forbid that we should stoop to that level and do the same to their beliefs.
So if a creator did make all life on Earth, they made it look like it evolved.
Why would an omnipotent being care what a pathetic, mortal, and violent group of hairless monkeys he/she/it made in Its image believed in It or not?
Either way, you construct a self-reference paradox. You say faith is necessary for "God's" plans for humanity, but this assumes that It wants or needs the love of mortal beings, which is ultimately not provable and therefore no more valid than worshipping narwhals because their magical horns will eventually grant immortality to all believers in their awesome powers.
In the end, faith in the otherworldly is but a vagary of perception- the temporary construct of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose. And all as artificial as the sugary trash that is Kool-Aid, although only a human mind could invent something so contradictory to reality as the Bible. It is my personal belief that once people realize this, more stuff will be accomplished as time reserved for "team prayer" and "hoping hard enough for something to happen" are recognized as the thinly veiled exercises in futility that they really are.
Wow, you are so far off course I dont know where to start. So I wont
Evolution needs billions of years to get to where we are now right? If so that is time, lots of it. Without lots of time evolution cannot be.
Time is the driving force behind the theory. Time is as neccessary to evolution as faith is to the believer. You cannot prove without a shadow of a doubt that all that time was actually there, therefore it takes a measure of faith to not only believe that time was there, but that during all this time all these random mutations took place to give us the complexity, variety, beauty, information and well designed working life forms that we see all around us today.
Meshach said:Wow, you are so far off course I dont know where to start. So I wont
And that's what I was originally going to put when I read your post. Then I deleted that line and explained why I feel you are wrong.
If you seriously believe in what you espouse, then refute me.
The salvation of many.Thank you.
Why did God destroy his creation by flooding it instead of just snapping his fingers to do it? And why did he decide to save parts of that creation by having Noah take it on the ark instead of just deciding that those bits were to be saved? Why go to all the effort of an ark, all that water, getting animals from all over the world, poor Noah's effort to build the ark etc when God could have accomplished it all for much less effort and time by just snapping his fingers? What was gained?
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