Tablet theroy and the origns of Genesis

Joe67 said:

His universe would collapse without resistance.

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Your most recent posts have helped me gain a broader understanding of your world view. This helps me better understand your posts. Thanks!

Your theories are interesting, but His promises seem to portray a time when resistence will be resolved. What then?

BFA

Byfaithalone1 said:

Your most recent posts have helped me gain a broader understanding of your world view. This helps me better understand your posts. Thanks!

Your theories are interesting, but His promises seem to portray a time when resistence will be resolved. What then?

BFA

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BFA,

It is normal (to me) to feel that some day all "resistance" will be resolved. I have felt/believed that way until the past 10 years or so.

Galatians 5:17 is a concise example of the "resistance" within us.

Generally we have felt/believed that when the vile body is changed and made like Jesus' glorious body that then the Galatians 5:17 experience will be resolved.

Practically speaking, the body needs resistance to maintain muscle tone, in our present state of being in our natural body.

The resurrected body will be a spiritual body. Will that body need some process of resistance to maintain balance, is a question that comes to me as we are talking?

Joe

Joe67 said:

It is normal (to me) to feel that some day all "resistance" will be resolved.

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Growth comes via creative tension. Are you hoping for stasis?

Avonia said:

Growth comes via creative tension. Are you hoping for stasis?

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I thought his point was the exact opposite. That it was "normal" to hope for stasis but he'd stopped hoping for it a decade ago because he's come to understand that living things grow, as you would say, "via creative tension." And that this may never cease to be the case.

It is already a bit of hell to me to not grow, to have nothing to learn, nothing to challenge me. I can only imagine that hellish sense would increase the more my capacities increased.

Avonia said:

Growth comes via creative tension. Are you hoping for stasis?

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Avonia,

Growth and then comes maturity and reproduction.

Stasis is a necessary phase of God's truth, thus we sleep/rest daily (or need to sleep daily).

Reproduction has a stasis quality in the order of the events, but it is a small sabbath quality balanced with a larger amount of work.

I was with my wife as she gave birth to our children. Cycles of rest and labor.

Joe

Nice synthesis there, Joe.

Eph 2:15
...for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; KJV

Academically this text is witnessing to the relationship of Jewish worship and Gentile worship of God and God's acceptance of both.

Through the Spirit we are also led to see the eternal purpose of God in Jesus Christ in the truth that "peace" comes through "duality."

Peace is comprised of both death and resurrection. God has witnessed this to us through all the creation.

In regard to our attitude toward God, we die once and then we are reconciled to God through God's judgment toward us in Jesus Christ.

In regard to our service to the "Body of Christ" we die daily as we minister the unsearchable riches of Christ unto those who God has made weaker than he has made us. Temperature moves, naturally without human machinery, from the hot to the cold.

Let our witness be as a sharp "double-edged" sword of things "old" and "new".

Joe

Joe67 said:

BFA,

It is normal (to me) to feel that some day all "resistance" will be resolved. I have felt/believed that way until the past 10 years or so.

Galatians 5:17 is a concise example of the "resistance" within us.

Generally we have felt/believed that when the vile body is changed and made like Jesus' glorious body that then the Galatians 5:17 experience will be resolved.

Practically speaking, the body needs resistance to maintain muscle tone, in our present state of being in our natural body.

The resurrected body will be a spiritual body. Will that body need some process of resistance to maintain balance, is a question that comes to me as we are talking?

Joe

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I suppose we struggle from a lack of definition of "resistence."

BFA

Byfaithalone1 said:

I suppose we struggle from a lack of definition of "resistence."

BFA

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BFA,

Another picture that comes to me is Paul's witness concerning the "conflict" that he experienced.

Phil 1:28-30
28 And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.

29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

30 Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me.
KJV

Phil 1:20-21
20 According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death.

21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.KJV

1 Cor 9:25-27
25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:

27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway....KJV

The faith that worked in Paul's consciousness ( Romans 5:1 ) and the grace that worked in Paul's body ( Romans 5:2-5: 1 Corinthians 15:10;9:16,17 ) were polemic one toward the other, even as sweet and bitter are polemic toward each other, yet needful and dependent to fulfill maturity of purpose.

Phil 1:23-24
23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:

24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.KJV

Faith is sweet in our heart and our mouth. Thus we are brought into the family of the priesthood.

The experience of grace and its accompanying tribulations is bitter in our belly. But we glory in infirmities that the power of Christ may rest upon us that we may fulfill our calling in ministry to the saints.

Rev 10:10-11
10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings. KJV

Joe