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What is "definitive empirical evidence"? I didn't use that expression.I am not seeing the empirical evidence on that study. I also don't see how one study could be construed as definitive empirical evidence as I believe you are stating.
Well, if you actually read the article you'd find an embedded link to the original paper No Missing Link: Knowledge Predicts Acceptance of Evolution in the United States | BioScience | Oxford AcademicI cannot even find the study. The links only go as far as a posted abstract. I asked for a link to the study but maybe my original post was over looked.
See my edit to my post.I did read the article. I did click on all the imbedded links. Your link takes me to the abstract that I clearly told you about in the previous post. Lets try this: POST A LINK TO THE ACTUAL STUDY.
Americans who understand how evolution works are more likely to accept it.
Americans who understand how evolution works are more likely to accept it
This flies in the face of creo's here who claim to understand ToE, but know it's false. IMO, this study is right on the money, and those here who claim to "understand" ToE, yet repeatedly demonstrate their ignorance, this study is for you.
If you want me to fund your research you'll need to provide a better application than that. The subscription is $569. If you consider that amount of money to be mere pocket change then pay it yourself. If you consider it to be a substantial amount please let us know why we should pay it for you.This has to be the most drawn out sales pitch in the history of mankind. Why don't you just copy and paste it for the rest of us.
No, those fields of study do not conflict with the Bible. Some of the conclusions made by men do.
If you want me to fund your research you'll need to provide a better application than that. The subscription is $569. If you consider that amount of money to be mere pocket change then pay it yourself. If you consider it to be a substantial amount please let us know why we should pay it for you.
not at all...I was asked for the list...I said nothing at all about whether or not it was important to know how many people believed. that is your fallacy and your reading into my posts what is not there, which goes back to my original point that you all are too zealous to discuss anything without all the emotional garbage you add on.Do you see any contradiction between these two posts? First you said that you had found a long list of creation scientists, as if the fact that many scientists are creationists proves that creationism is true;
it never has and never will but that doesn't mean that if I am directly asked for a list I shouldn't provide it, now does it? I mean, it is common forum courtesy to respond to what people say and ask for rather than the games you all like to play.now you are saying that the truth of an assertion doesn't depend on the number of people of people who believe it.
I have never said that, cause I think that is a horrible way to look at whether anything is true or not...but....you all haven't heard anything I have said anyway so whatever.Also, a lot of people do say that the fact that the Bible is the world's best-selling book, or that Christianity has the largest number of adherents of any religion, proves that that Christianity is true.
please reread my point. My point is that the theory of evolution like all other topics has zealots that refuse to listen to know if a person understands or not before judging. It's human nature and why I refuse to talk about my beliefs in such forums. If I could find someone willing to discuss not judge I would be all into it so that I could learn even more than I already know but sadly you all have evidenced this isn't gonna happen.So far as I understand you, your original point is that there are people who understand evolution and reject it, but they are misrepresented so as to make it appear that they do not understand it. If there are such people, can you give some examples, and describe what they think in enough detail to demonstrate that they really do understand evolution.
The only people I know of who understand evolution and reject it are Kurt Wise and Todd Wood. Wise has said that scientifically speaking evolution is a very strong theory and he rejects it only because it disagrees with the Bible; in other words his motive for rejecting evolution is based on religion, not on the scientific evidence.
Cool. Feel free to move along.please reread my point. My point is that the theory of evolution like all other topics has zealots that refuse to listen to know if a person understands or not before judging. It's human nature and why I refuse to talk about my beliefs in such forums. If I could find someone willing to discuss not judge I would be all into it so that I could learn even more than I already know but sadly you all have evidenced this isn't gonna happen.
apparently the truth of my words is hitting a nerve....Cool. Feel free to move along.
Not at all.apparently the truth of my words is hitting a nerve....
lol you showed that a meaningful discussion cannot be had...which is very sad indeed.Not at all.
Unfortunately you've convinced yourself that having an honest, reasonable conversation here is impossible, so why stay? Your opinions are set, why why beat that horse.
With you... correct.lol you showed that a meaningful discussion cannot be had...which is very sad indeed.
lol with several people but feel free to stop trying to incite me to respond since doing so is against forum rules.With you... correct.
This is my point, maybe it's (wait for it ...) you.lol with several people but feel free to stop trying to incite me to respond since doing so is against forum rules.
lol I am currently in another thread talking about the reputation atheists have and I guarantee it isn't just me....lol...now, are you ready to stop trying to incite me to respond when I have already said I was done? Or are you going to further prove my point?This is my point, maybe it's (wait for it ...) you.
And I'm not interested in your response, at all. In fact I've invited you to leave my thread.
And yet you keep responding...lol I am currently in another thread talking about the reputation atheists have and I guarantee it isn't just me....lol...now, are you ready to stop trying to incite me to respond when I have already said I was done? Or are you going to further prove my point?
lol....oh my....how sad that you can't deal with the truth. If you ever feel like dropping the judgment and just have a discussion let me know. It would be without doubt interesting.And yet you keep responding...
Adios.
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