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I'm pretty sure that I read part of the bible informing that "the husband shall not withhold from the wife, nor shall the wife withhold from the husband" or something similar, so both individuals are equally responsible for sexually satisfying each other. It's not a one-sided thing.He promotes women having fewer rights, and that a husband has the right to command sex at any point whereas the woman is not allowed to.
The blogger at biblicalgenderroles.com is wrong.
There's a lot I could say, but I'll start with this: Many ancient cultures were patriarchal, and we see this patriarchal background in some of the stories in the Bible. Nevertheless, even against this patriarchal background, we see affirmations of women throughout the Scriptures. Genesis 1 says that both men and women are in the image of God. The gospels show Jesus talking with women in ways that contrast with the culturally expected patriarchy; note, for example, the stories of Mary and Martha of Bethany, the woman at the well, and the description in Luke 8 of the group of women who travelled with him and provided for him. St Paul writes that, for Christians, "There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus."
Your concern about this issue isn't silly at all. Patriarchy is destructive to women, and it violates the rule that we should love our neighbors as ourselves.
The Bible says a mixture of things about women. Some reflect the attitudes of ancient cultures, and others reflect the command to love our neighbors as ourselves.The Bible does say many unfavourable things about women, clearly indicating them to be inferior, second class and in submission
The Bible says a mixture of things about women. Some reflect the attitudes of ancient cultures, and others reflect the command to love our neighbors as ourselves.
Hey all, I honestly don't know where else to turn. I came across a website called biblicalgenderroles.com wherein the blogger basically says men and women have equal value to God, but man is the image bearer of God, while woman only carries half the image of God man has. He even goes so far as to say a husband is not commanded to sexually satisfy his wife because the man wasn't made for the woman. He promotes women having fewer rights, and that a husband has the right to command sex at any point whereas the woman is not allowed to. He believes marriage is the ownership of the wife by the husband. Even the comments on his blogs are incredibly hurtful. Thing is... some of it actually makes a lot of sense if you take into consideration that a woman must submit "in everything" to her husband, as she would to Jesus. Yes, Jesus is supposed to have died for us... but he is still supposed to be God... and the church will never be God. Therefore, man and woman will never be equal. Right?
I'm really struggling hard with this, and this all may seen silly to some, but it's one of the biggest hold ups to me becoming a Christian. I cannot have a relationship with a God who views me as less than man.
I'm sorry if this is in the wrong spot, but this is really eating at me
Love them as long as they are kept in their place? After all, “Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner”…
1 Timothy 2:14
This passage is a difficult one to figure out, for several reasons, one of which is that the "women should be silent in church" interpretation conflicts with some other things that Paul writes and some things we see in Acts. I've seen multiple attempts to make sense of it. One possibility is that since Eve's lack of knowledge led to her susceptibility to deception and then sin (2:13-14), it is very important that women have the same opportunities for learning that men have, and that they take full advantage of those opportunities (2:11). (I am indebted to Gilbert Bilezikian for this reading of the passage.) Other readings are possible. And, yes, one possibility is that the author of I Timothy was too strongly influenced by the attitudes of the culture he lived in.
Keeping people "in their place" is not consistent with loving them as one's self.
From the entirety of the Bible, both the OT and NT it seems women are second class to men. What shocked me was Deuteronomy 25:11-12, among other things. Again, both the OT and NT. The NT is of course not as drastic, but still regards women more sinful and less capable or worthy. Salvation through child bearing is quite an idea, too.
That is reasoning beyond what the Bible shows, friend! It shows us how the woman caused the failure in the beginning by acting in the flesh: as in Genesis 2and 3 ; and must be in subject to the godly man (if he is). She has her godly place in service in the world, and it is very commendabe and a happy course. One needs to read the Gospels and the Epistles and learn how the Christian course really is.The Bible does say many unfavourable things about women, clearly indicating them to be inferior, second class and in submission
I think we have to admit that there are some places where this is true. But I also think the examples of Jesus and of Paul's churches suggest that this isn't the normative Christian position.The Bible does say many unfavourable things about women, clearly indicating them to be inferior, second class and in submission
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