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Be that as it may - at a convention where a pro life democrat spoke - he wished the best for those who would run for presidency as he himself could not because of his pro life stance.
 
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Be that as it may - at a convention where a pro life democrat spoke - he wished the best for those who would run for presidency as he himself could not because of his pro life stance.

The candidacy of Donald Trump should be plenty of proof that in the U.S. people can run for whatever they want, and if they win primaries they will get the nomination. The parties may try to throw obstacles in their way, but may not necessarily succeed.

Of course money is necessary, but there might be some millionaires out there who like the idea of a seamless garment kind of candidate. It would certainly be a novelty, and neither of the major parties has ever had a pro-life platform (I don't consider pro-preborn-life as pro-life unless a lot of other "pros" are added) in my memory. It would be really refreshing.

Of course I have my biases, too. I don't consider anyone opposed to stricter gun controls to be pro-life. I know some of you disagree, but it's my right to set my own parameters.
 
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There is a never a point from the moment of conception until that the DNA blueprint that defines all human development that is to come is not present, and is not unfolding.

The humanity of a young boy entering kindgergarten, of the old man delirious in the final stages of his cancer, or the man in his prime waging a war, are very different from each other.
But the difference at any stage of ones life, between the baby in the birth canal, and the baby taking her first breath, between the child in utero sucking her thumb, or sucking on her thumb on her first day on the outside, are progressive, and organic, with no breaks in the sequence in which one can point to say that this is a human life and this is not.
Because science itself shows that the same organism that exists at conception carries on existing until the moment of death.
Human life ultimately is not defined by science though. Our humanity is defined through an act of supreme faith.

We can either chose to have faith that every human life is of infinite and inherent worth, regardless of any exterior judgments of the worth of that life, or we can chose to believe that the worth of a human being is contingent on our judgements of its worthiness.

Reason alone would conclude that the world that sees all human life as of infinite value and of inherent worth is a better world in which we pick and chose which lives are worthy of life, and which are of no inherent value to us.
 
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Right on. That's why we are against abortion, capital punnishment as it is practiced in this time and place, it's why we favor stronger gun control laws, it's why we advocate for the requirements of Just War Doctrine to be met before engaging in any conflict, it's why we're against Euthanasia, it's why we're against abortion, it's why we recognize human torture as evil, and it's why we need to set up a system in which all people can get excelent healthcare (including preventative care and education) without regard to their ability to pay.
 
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http://www.pewforum.org/2013/01/16/a-history-of-key-abortion-rulings-of-the-us-supreme-court/

Let's be clear. States can ban abortions after 20 weeks. I also believe that Congress passed a law preventing partial birth abortion, the second of which was upheld by the Supreme Court in Gonzales v Carhart.

I agree with Patacki (as he argued on Thursday) that there should be federal legislation that prevents abortions after 20 weeks. Of course, Patacki was alone in this view.

There also needs to be much more support of young women (before, during and after pregnancy), including health care and protection of jobs.
 
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Agreed on all!
 
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