Speaking in tongues - amazing experience

Faulty said:

You're making stuff up aren't you?

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I started praying when I was 5 years old. I'm over 50 and 3,000 readings later. Researches from one end to another. Visited many sects and denominations. What I'm saying is a combination of everything I've learned. It was a long journey. No , I'm not the devil and don't dine with the Dens of the Devils. What I said is peaceful and good.

Now I'm the Presbyteers.

K2K said:

ARE YOU CHECKING THE SPIRITS?

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I'm always on the look out for them. The Elects are protected from the evil spirits. It comes with the package to the Saved. The SPIRITS are all around us looking for ways to deceive Christians. In my post, I mentioned something about the feelings in your hands and how laying of hands effects other people. It also effects outside influences like unknown spirits, unseen elements such as micro bacteria and viruses, including shielding from dampness and coldness as well as extreme heat and dryness and even from venomous snake bites, gamma rays, radiation. If you notice the faces of the saints and Presbyteers, you'll see youth. Their faces appear young at old age. People think I'm 20 years younger. The skins are smooth and always see a smile. This comes with the flame I mention that is always burning and turning and it does the work of healing and creates wellness.

K2K said:

.... The devil may not have ultimate power of the Lord's sheep, but even Jesus was tempted by Satan. You had better make sure who you are listening to! . . .

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This is also included. The Elects or the believer believes in the promises of the Lord even through tempted moments. This is something that a Christian never doubts. The confident that the promises will be made creates extreme wellness and faithfulness. This called faith.

K2K said:

... You can pray in tongues and at the same time get a confrimation that Jesus Christ is Lord, and the Jesus Christ came in the flesh. . . .

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The Lord's Will has already happened to the Christians and confirmation comes with the new birth. Knowing that Jesus is Lord comes with Salvation. The Fire never goes out. It would be impossible for the Sheep to blow the Flame out. It's like trying to stop the Milky Way Galaxy from turning. The tongue is an human event. It's like the light switch. If you watch very closely to the switch and turn it on but not all the way on, you see a spark jumping across two wires. If you rub the carpet and barely touch a person or the wall, static will jump and this can be observed. The mouth and the tongue is like the switch. Bioelectrical events jump across the lower tongue/jaw/neck area and the roof of the mouth/sinses/skull and creates natural language-like sounds. Of course it's natural and amazing. If you listen to the switch or two wires touch very very carefully, you'll hear samll thurnder-like events. The Tongue is like the thunder in the Clouds but smaller. It's the sound of the Flames and your spirit. It has a feel good power but must be handled with care. This is part of a natural man during trances while hyperventilating and bouncing and singing. I never said it was a bad thing. If you like the feel, then explore the amazing natural phenomenon and the wonders of ancient old facts, It's ok exercise or allow your tongues to play. It's natural and deep but it can be put to use and more useful in healing and understanding reality by cultivating the flame. Contain it and build an internal bio-nuclear reactor and command the basket of fishes to multiply, raise the dead and walk though walls.

K2K said:

. . . The Holy Sprit is omni-present, but He is also a respector of wishes. So while He might not actually be able to leave, He can and will certainly leave you alone if you wish. . . .

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God doesn't wish the opposite of His promises to the Christians. He picks and chose according to His own pleasures and wishes what he wishes. Wishes is a bad word. You know better not to use that word when speaking about the Word. Wishes is a man-made belief and not the same as God's Will. What God Wills ~will~ happen. It's silly to think God's Will ~might~ come true. If it didn't come true, He never Willed it. He doesn't wish and hopes for the best. Christians don't wish not to be Christians. The Saved don't wish to be unsaved. The Sheep doesn't wish to be the goat. The promises or the guarantee would be broken and not be true. You used, "might", "can" in the above statement. Is it 'might' or 'will'? Is it 'can' or 'does'?

K2K said:

. . . So did the Lord specifically tell you to hold back the Spirit. Are you following the small voice of the Lord, or some big wind bag telling to you to just trust in him and don't think that you could be decieved?

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The Lord does keep His promises and impossible for the Elect to hold back the Spirit. The Spirit comes with the new birth or Salvation. It's included in Christians. The Elects don't hold back or can't hold back. It would be impossible. Believe in the gift of faith that was already given to the Saved.

K2K said:

. . . We are told to not believe every spirit, not to mindlessly follow just any spirit that we are picking up.

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I never discussed following another spirit. Only your spirit and God's Spirit. Just two. Not three.

Maybe you don't believe you have a spirit. Many don't. Your spirit is in the kidneys. It's softer than the softest element, water. Go for it. Raise your spirit to the crown. Do you see the halo above your head?

Where were you in the early seventies your posts sound alot like a fellow I met during the Jesus revolution who had mixed alot of his drug induced ideas with a smattering of christianity. He was way spooky. I amnot saying this is the case for you but just have to say that this is way out of my comfort zone Presbyteers and I have been a spirit filled believer for almost 40 years. Not sure where you get that the spirit is in the kidneys. New concept for me. gg

gratefulgrace said:

. . .this is way out of my comfort zone . . .

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I understand. I've been there and done that. Watching the sick, ~most~ or ~some~ folks that are sick, crippled, on the verge of dying approach the healing pulpits, such as famous televised events, and go home unhealed. Some healed. Observing those that were carelessly lied to by some or most pulpit leaders were way out of my comfort zone. Like spiritual warriors, some need to wonder in the uncomforted zones to find the solutions to those that didn't get healed. As you can see my profile logos shows that we go deeper into the dangerous jungles to get the answers. We also extend the Word of God beyond the tips of our sword, proclaiming the Gospel as instructed by our Lord.
I'm sorry you feel uncomfortable with what I said. Most that are claiming healing in this forum and some told me that they were plastered with all sort of illnesses in personal emails. I'm not comfortable with those that say they're well and healed and later, at the same time, tell me that they're drawing disability for a long long long list of illness that are still haunting them. Positive thinking is very good but must be handled with care and wisely. Too much positivity can do more harm than good. In my 70's I spent time reading the testimonies of folks that were healed and folks that wasn't healed in multiple denominations as well as the metaphysical groups. Different selected keywords sent me to different safe paths for further search. That drove me to a deeper search and sent me to the mountains of hidden monks and came back with more details of the solutions and problems of healing.
Translating these things to make you comfortable is a difficult task. Usually I get asked to leave certain sections of the forums. Would you like for me to leave? What about those that never got healed? Would they want me to stay? Do you not believe man can walk on water? Do you not believe thousands of fishes can flow out of a gallon bucket? The Bible tells of these events.

Now, you know where your spirit rests, in the kidneys. Now, direct your spirit to explore. Go for it. Theres something you have to sink to make the spirit rise upward. Rise upward to the crown and taste the tongue of the flame and show them your halo.
If you believe you don't have a spirit, thats ok too since God only revels only what you need to know. Maybe you don't need to know what I said but some, here, might like to know.

What are your testimonies of the gift of tongues. I want to know how to get it. I have prayed that I am filled with the holy spirit but the gift has yet to manifest.

Smiler33 said:

I have to say I'm lost and don't understand what you're talking about really - I started this thread to share how thrilled I was about speaking in tongues and how I felt it moved me on in my spiritual journey.

Everyone has their own thoughts and it's good to share different experiences; it's just a lot of what is said goes straight over my head - too deep too soon for me :o.

In biblical terms I'm no longer a baby on milk, I've definitely moved onto meat but it has to be chopped up!!!! Think I've got it right !

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No, it isn't "too deep" for you. It is a bunch of mixed up nonsense. Adding many religions to one. You are doing fantastic!

Smiler33 said:

. . .I've definitely moved onto meat but it has to be chopped up!!!! . . .

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Is it spicy?

It's useful after these times with the Lord to listen as to what He was saying through you on a matter (or wait for an interpretation if in a congregational setting), and then watch and see Him work. It is a time of edification.

djsterf said:

It's useful after these times with the Lord to listen as to what He was saying through you on a matter (or wait for an interpretation if in a congregational setting), and then watch and see Him work. It is a time of edification.

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They can confirm existing (Scriptural) revelation with tongues. Or have a private prayer language.
If they're not channeling extra-scriptural revelation, I don't have much problem with them. Let 'em prophesize what the Bible already says.
Obversely, if they're channeling new revelation, then ________ . . .

ThePresbyteers said:

They can confirm existing (Scriptural) revelation with tongues. Or have a private prayer language.
If they're not channeling extra-scriptural revelation, I don't have much problem with them. Let 'em prophesize what the Bible already says.
Obversely, if they're channeling new revelation, then ________ . . .

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Don't be so quick to slice with your three swords! I'm advocating praying for an interpretation of how you are praising God, as is clearly a benefit for the edification of the Body that Paul mentions in 1 Corinthians 14 (especially vv. 12-17).

God will never speak contrary to His Word. However, His Word has living significance to us and will minister to us individually in our various seasons.

djsterf said:

Don't be so quick to slice with your three swords!. . .

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GREAT ! You noticed us extending the Word from the tips of our sword.
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For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Hebrews 4:12
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I don't need to be quick. Ya'll are too slow!

djsterf said:

. . . However, His Word has living significance to us and will minister to us individually in our various seasons.

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I like the use of "Living Significance".

djsterf said:

. . . I'm advocating praying for an interpretation of how you are praising God. . .

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I also extend praises. Instead of letting it all out at once, I spread mine to last 24 hours a day, each day, with a blissful hum.