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"Acts of the Apostles" is a chronicle of the new "CHURCH" in transition. Any snippets or occurences therein should NOT be used to find a true doctrine.
Paul's letters to the "CHURCHES" are solid theological spirit-led TRUTHS about Jesus the Divine Messiah. Doctrine may be safely gleaned from them.
As I have stated before, very few Pentecostals and charismatics believe that the unregenerate were given the Holy Spirit so that they could receive an interpretation of what the 120 were saying to the Father, if this had of occurred then Luke would have told us so.That is a contradiction of the Word of God. Believe it if you feel like it, but you are wrong to do so. (1 Cor. 14:2)
This passage certainly confuses many, where Paul's meaning remained unclear up until 1988 when Wayne Grudem (The Gift of Prophecy in the NT) pointed out that in 14:22 that the use of sign should be read as "So then tongues are negative sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers". All Paul was saying was that the unsaved and cessationist visitor will most likely be confused and upset when every one prays/sings in the Spirit all at once during times of praise and worship - so we are not to do it!OP: "Speaking in "tongues"?
A1:
1 Corinthians 14:22 (NASB)
So then "tongues" are for a "sign", NOT to those who believe (saved) but to unbelievers; but "prophecy" is for a sign, not to unbelievers but to those who believe.Therefore if the whole "church assembles" together and all speak in "tongues", and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad?
This goes back to my first point, but tongues has absolutely nothing to do with any supposed intended 'sign' value to the unsaved, tongues is all about praying in the Spirit.The miraculous "sign" gifts used by God to authenticate ~12-men as spirit-led MESSENGERS of the Gospel and TRUTH
(aka apostles) CEASED when the last of the original MSS of the Bible were "produced"...~100 AD.
Q1: "...is it responsible to develop doctrine from the book of Acts today?..."
A1: No. The "CHURCH" was new and in transtion. Multiple Missions all over the known world. Preaching / teaching to both Jew and Gentile. Miracles, signs, and wonders to authenticate the apostles as "men of God".
No established and accepted "liturgy". Struggles for leadership in the "CHURCH". ETC!
Q2: "...a special "dispensation" of (God the Holy Spirit).'
A2: No. God is unchanging and unchangeable (immutable).
His METHOD or "economy" of dealing with Man changed from OT to NT due to the historical event of Jesus the God-Man, come down from heaven to save Mankind.
I know there are doctrines that do not separate the baptism of the HS with the experience of salvation but it is important to point out that in Acts the baptism of the HS is shown as a separate experience from salvation and from water baptism.
Acts 4 shows us a subsequent baptism of the HS for the original 120 present during pentecost manifested through special measure of boldness.
Acts 8 shows that the early Samaritans accepted faith in Jesus Christ as they were "[water] baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus" but had not yet "received the Spirit". Although not specific in the text it is clear from the reaction from Simon that by the act of laying of of hands and prayer that something noticeable happened as Simon immediately offered money so that he could have this power too.
In Acts 10 shows us the baptism of the HS being poured out to Cornelius and his household after Peter affirms salvation. Peter reports the "Holy Spirit fell on them just as on us at the beginning"
These accounts in Acts do not show the HS giving out gifts each differently but rather like a blanket covering all and the results are the same for all. This is simply how the accounts of Acts shows the HS and I make no apologies that it does not following the rules laid out 1 Corinthians 12-14.
As for the 3000 on the day of Pentecost the text only says they were baptised but not baptised by the HS so it would be irresponsible to look at this as an example of the baptism of the HS in Acts. The example would be from Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance".
So Paul teaches one thing and Acts shows another. Both must be true experiences of the HS but rather sweeping the accounts of Acts under a rug why not teach that these experiences are also genuine. I recognize there is a lot of abuse but abuse should not deter us from teaching and acting upon what the bible shows is correct. Read Acts and it will show the baptism of the HS is a separate experience from salvation and water baptism, it shows this experience is like a pouring out (or as scripture explains a "falling") indiscriminately to all, that there are subsequent moments in a believer's life and the baptism of the HS manifests recognizable power of the HS most typically tongues.
Read Acts and it will show the baptism of the HS is a separate experience from salvation and water baptism, it shows this experience is like a pouring out (or as scripture explains a "falling") indiscriminately to all, that there are subsequent moments in a believer's life and the baptism of the HS manifests recognizable power of the HS most typically tongues.
The question comes down to was there a special dispensation of the HS to empower the early church or is the HS the same in action today as he was the day of pentecost. If there was a special dispensation of the HS is this supported by scripture? These are important questions to determine if after reading Acts I should expect the same thing.
Which chapter of Acts are you speaking of? Chapter 2?As I have stated before, very few Pentecostals and charismatics believe that the unregenerate were given the Holy Spirit so that they could receive an interpretation of what the 120 were saying to the Father, if this had of occurred then Luke would have told us so.
RESPONSE TO POST#168: Q1: " Are you suggesting this method of the HS changed somewhere... "
A1: No. GOD'S method/economy of dealing with mankind changed from OT to NT...PERIOD!
Yes, chapter 2.Which chapter of Acts are you speaking of? Chapter 2?
Acts 2 says nothing about anyone speaking in a known language or even multiple known languages. Rather it says that those present "heard" them speaking in their own languages.
So you are saying that as you believe that tongues are always given in known languages that a visitor who could speak in a language that some knew could not fake a tongue - are you really being serious or have you not really thought this through?Unless tongues/"glossa" are in a REAL language understood by someone of a DIFFERENT language, it is of no value, spiritual or otherwise. To someone hearing it is gibberish. It is easliy counterfeited by man and demon.
Paul leaves no doubt that praying in the Spirit is in fact how we pray to the Father within inarticulate Angelic tongues; I appreciate that for those who have decided that they do not want to be able to pray in tongues that this means that they are unable to pray in the Spirit but this is their choice and there's alone."Praying in the spirit" is NOT "tongues"! (ALL NASB)
Absolutely. God does not contradict His Own Word - 1 Corinthians 14:2
Actually if you read the entire passage, Paul makes a distinction and verses 16-20 make it clear the goal for edification is understanding.Right, personal tongues does not need to be interpreted, but someone with the gift of interpretation of tongues might be given the interpretation. But ALWAYS with the gift of diverse kinds of tongues.
Actually, "praying in the Spirit" is tongues as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:15. However, you may be given the interpretation to know what you are saying.
It is given to all who believe, whether they know they have the right to speak or not. It is part of the whole armor of God. It is very powerful to pray perfect prayers to God that are totally His will.
Show me the contradiction. The apostles on the day of Pentecost were not praying in the Spirit but proclaiming the Gospel.That is a contradiction of the Word of God. Believe it if you feel like it, but you are wrong to do so. (1 Cor. 14:2)
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