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Significant Semi-Arian within Traditional Adventism

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In another thread I made a comment about there being a large amount of Traditional SDA’s who hold to semi-arian views. While saying large and or very large is a pretty indefinite amount and it is further clouded by being a portion of another subsection of Adventism, namely traditional Adventists, I am going to offer some documentation of my statement. Whether small or large it is a significant amount.



His conclusion is interesting for some of the other issues taking place on the Adventist forum:


The above article is from the very conservative Journal of the Adventist Theological Society. Note the following from another very conservative Adventist voice Kevin Paulson from:




And interesting blog article Against "Historical" Adventists: The Whites and the Divinity of Christ states:



continued in part 2

 

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Part 2

From an article by the Biblical Research Institute Silver Spring, MD June 1999
http://www.macgregorministries.org/seventh_day_adventists/trinity.html





Some examples from the Anti-trinitarian, they a rarely say they are semi-arian, statements:

You can even by their book “What did the Pioneers Believe” in which the ebay ad says:
[FONT=&quot]Or you can simply read it here:[/FONT]
http://www.restorationministry.com/books/wdtpb/wdtpb.htm
The book actually includes this in the introduction and it is indeed a very true quote:


 
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Bump to refresh remind of this quote:
“Most of the founders of Seventh-day Adventism would not be able to join the church today if they had to subscribe to the denomination’s Fundamental Beliefs.
“More specifically, most would not be able to agree to belief number 2, which deals with the doctrine of the Trinity. …” (Famous author and Andrews University seminary professor, George Knight, Ministry Magazine, October, 1993, page 10)
 
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Taken from the EGW estate website:
What did Ellen White believe regarding the Godhead?
Ellen White never used the term "trinity," although she did refer to the "three living persons of the heavenly trio" (Evangelism, p. 615). She believed in the full deity of Christ, stating that "Christ was God essentially, and in the highest sense. He was with God from all eternity, God over all, blessed forevermore" (Review and Herald, April 5, 1906). She also referred to the Holy Spirit as "the Third Person of the Godhead" (The Desire of Ages, p. 671). Her comments, as collected in Evangelism, pages 613-617, suggest that she believed that the Scriptures taught the existence of three co-eternal divine persons.
 
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There was a time I used to believe in the trinity doctrine, and that is what I told people. But now after I have changed my mind, some of those people still think that I believe in the trinity doctrine. I hope I got rid of all that i wrote about believing in a trinity.
 
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Personally I dont think Arian was a Gnostic; I think Constantine the great said that about him, to discredit him. Dont forget, Constantine the Great was the Pagan High Priest, all during the time he proclaimed to be head of the Christian church. Since Arian was a Judeaizing Christian, A logical assumption would be that he was a Judeao Christian. And as for Constantine he was a Pagan Christian. Because the Judeao Arian Christians lost the war against the Pagan Christians; you can imagine what happened after that.
 
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It's recorded in some historical documents, but I dont know where to find them now. You may try looking on the web under: Constantine The Great.
From what I remember about Constantine was just an emperor who came into Christianity. He was tired of the fighting between Alexander and Arius and told them to settle their differences. That didn't work so he asked the bishops from around the empire to come together and reconcile the problem.

All but two of the bishops voted against Aruis' position and later Aruis was exiled and not allowed communion within the church.

Some time later Constantine sided with the Arians and ordered the church to allow Arius to take communion but Aruis died before that was to happen. Constantine died an Arian. Constantine was against paganism and enacted laws which prohibited Pagans to obtain Christian converts and even had laws which said a Christian was not allowed to convert to Judaism.

So, historically, I don't see where Constantine could have been a pagan high priest.

blessings,
Chris
 
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For now I dont have access to my other computer. But anyway, Constantine made a pretence to becoming a Christian. It was not until he was on his death bed that he was truely baptised. Until his death he remained also the Pagan High Priest. This info I told you is recorded in some history books, but it's hard to find. Ill go now and see if I can find anything.
 
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