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The matter of the truthfulness of the theory of evolution is not the point.
The point is that you lied about me.
1. Anything you elevate above God becomes your god. If you put theories of origin ahead of your Bible, then science is your god and evolution is your religion.Of course! Let's be clear - notwithstanding other aspects of the back-and-forth here, the creationists (perhaps not all, but many) are clearly misrepresenting some basic facts:
1. Evolution is clearly not a religion - to suggest this is a violent perversion of proper thinking.
2. The theory of evolution was developed using scientific reasoning (this would be true even if the scientific consensus turns out to be mistaken).
3. It is clearly not valid reasoning to arbitrarily (without justification) rule out the possibility of a metaphorical reading of the creation account. This is because it is otherwise clear that some parts of the Bible are not intended to be taken literally.
4. The "it's just a theory" argument, which is based on either an intentional or an ignorance-based misrepresentation of what scientists mean by the word "theory".
And there may be more.
If evolution is really a lie, you have to believe that tens of thousands of highly credentialed experts, including the likes well-known Christian scientists Francis Collins, are lying and thereby risking their professional reputations.Since you call the evolutionary lie as truth,....
You most certainly did lie. To wit:I did not. Every time you make a claim concerning the viability of evolution, you lie against the scripture. There's been a lot of that.
Since you acknowledge actually reading my posts, you (unless you have reading comprehension problems) have to know that I do not "reject what the Bible says". Instead, I reject a literal reading of the creation account.SeventyOne said:You've made it clear over and over that you reject what the Bible says.
show you what? Animals have no idea they are going to die. Or do you think otherwise? Only we humans know that we will die. Likewise, animals do not sin, because they do not know right from wrong. So, taking Genesis literally, we could not sin and we did not know about death until Adam ate the fruit of that tree. Sin and death came came into the world at that time, just as Paul tells us. For "evolutionists" it is much the same. Somewhere along the line we acquired the ability to contemplate the consequences of our actions, with the same result as above, and Paul is still not wrong. I can only assume that you creationists require that there was no cessation of life before the fall for some other reason that you're not telling us.Show me.
4 Evolution is an unprovable theory of origins.
3. Since no Hebrew scholars believe that Genesis was written to mean anything other than what it says, to pretend otherwise is foolishness and lying to yourself.
So, you wish to "affirm the inerrancy of the bible"........but you believe that intellectual suicide is unavoidable if you deny the "fact" of evolution"?I want to go on record as expressing the belief that acceptance of evolution forces one to deny that death of all forms is a result of the fall. And that certainly may present a challenge to those of us who wish to affirm the inerrancy of the Bible while not committing the intellectual suicide that is unavoidable if you deny the fact of evolution.
And I would like to go on record that the death that comes from the sin of Adam is not the death of animals, but rather the death of Adam and his descendants.
show you what? Animals have no idea they are going to die. Or do you think otherwise? Only we humans know that we will die.
1. Anything you elevate above God becomes your god. If you put theories of origin ahead of your Bible, then science is your god and evolution is your religion
Thank you. I choose to deal with challenges, rather than to ignore reality.So, you wish to "affirm the inerrancy of the bible"........but you believe that intellectual suicide is unavoidable if you deny the "fact" of evolution"?
Yep, that's a conundrum. Good luck with it.
You can find as many sites stating that evolution is a religion as you can for those that emphatically state the opposite...That's simply a crazy use of the word religion. Misusing words like that allows all kinds of logical errors to be made.
You do realize that it drove Darwin, a Christian, insane? Due to his conflicting belief in God and the anti biblical view of evolution.Thank you. I choose to deal with challenges, rather than to ignore reality.
You can find as many sites stating that evolution is a religion as you can for those that emphatically state the opposite...
Sad, but every crackpot has the same rights as the other crackpots.That's because any kook or crackpot can create a webpage.
The word is not sole but sola! There are a lot of things nott mentioned in the Bible like evolution.So the word: "sole" is not actually a word that is in the Bible? What is the meaning of the passage in Revolution where we are not to add to the words of the book or take away from them?
However, I like this one. Since evolution is unprovable it is by faith that you believe it.
Ruse has clearly stated that he believes Darwinian theory is CORRECT.Dr. Michael Ruse, from the Department of Philosophy at the University of Guelph in Ontario, is a philosopher of science, particularly of the evolutionary sciences. He is the author of several books on Darwinism and evolutionary theory and in an article in the National Post he wrote:7
Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion—a full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality. . . . Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.
You do realize that it drove Darwin, a Christian, insane? Due to his conflicting belief in God and the anti biblical view of evolution.
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