Jesus chose what he did out of love.
Where is the flaw in that argument ?
The greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion, which is war against the child. The mother doesn't learn to love, but kills to solve her own problems. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want."
- Mother Teresa
Certainly, I do :If, somehow, your death will enable your unborn child to live (you have yet to explain that scenario, Dad) you will not have accomplished anything at all close to what Jesus accomplished by His death.
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The specific topic of this thread is mothers whose lives are at risk because of their pregnancies. This is a very small percentage of all pregnancies. Do you have a pro-life quote handy for these specific pregnancies?
I love Veggie Tales. You have to get the Christian versions from Wal-Mart now. NBC bought Veggie Tales telling the creators that they would not edit out the Christian content. Then NBC said they would remove the Bible verse at the end. Next thiong you klnow NBC is saying that they are editing out the name, "God" out of all episodes. NBC did this because they were concerned about offending anyone.I answer my own question: "Death from rupture is rare" as stated in WikiPedia under Ectopic Pregnancy, specifically treatment.
Here's a twist: does anyone know about Tubal pregnancies? I realize that most of the time, they either naturally miscarry or the doctor must end the pregnancy (let's say it the way it is: the doctor advises he kill the embryo). But do some babies make it all the way without rupturing the mother's fallopian tube?
I should look this up because I'm curious, but I'm afraid of what I might find. Could this be a true scenario where a mother's life is (9 times out of 10) in danger if the pregnancy continues? I sincerely hope not.
It is recorded in the history of Scotland that in the year of 1591 a lady of rank by the name of Eufame Macalyane was burned alive on the castle hill of Edinburgh. She was burned alive because while giving birth to her twin sons she asked the midwife, whose name was Agnes Sampson, to give her something for pain. Now, Agnes Sampson, out of Christian love for this suffering woman, must have reported the incident to the church authorities.
Actually many women with tubal pregnancies don't die if the tube ruptures but of course lose a tube and ovary and the bleeding is dramatic even if it doesn't result in death.
That's exactly what I was thinking... there should be a way to remove the baby and developing placenta from a fallopian tube (or other abnormal place) in order to re-attach somehow inside the uterus.Actually many women with tubal pregnancies don't die if the tube ruptures but of course lose a tube and ovary and the bleeding is dramatic even if it doesn't result in death.
And there have been cases of ABDOMINAL pregnancies where the child and mother have both survived. Sorry I don't have any links to the info atm, I'll look later. I have read about it in Women's magazines and seen it talked about on TV shows. In the case of the tubal pregnancy yes there is a 100% chance the baby will die and I see no problem removing it before the tube ruptures. It'd be nice if science could figure out some way to just remove it from the tube and transfer/attach it in the womb where it's supposed to be.
Well, who wouldn't seek medical treatment if they were bleeding to death? There's a Grand Canyon of difference between being treated in order to live (thereby losing the life of the child) vs. going in to the doctor specifically to have the baby killed.My prefacing statement was that the mother will die without medical treatment.
Well, who wouldn't seek medical treatment if they were bleeding to death? There's a Grand Canyon of difference between being treated in order to live (thereby losing the life of the child) vs. going in to the doctor specifically to have the baby killed.
Loss of life happens. We just have to quit doing it on purpose. By all means, seek medical treatment... that's exactly what I mean when I say there is no scenario to fit that abortion loop-hole. If the baby is going to die, it will die... THAT is not abortion, even if it is by the hand of the doctor who must save the mother (at that final moment of imminent danger -- not 5 months earlier).
Even if they told me that my baby wouldn't be able to survive once born, well, at least I might get to hold them once.
This happened to my friend. She was induced a few months early because her son had not developed a brain and would therefore only live about 5 minutes outside of the womb. He was otherwise totally healthy. I've wondered what I might do in that situation. I hope I might be strong enough to carry the baby to term in order to donate as many organs as possible and save handfuls of other struggling infants. My little boy would have done more in five minutes of life than most of us ever will.
Besides, you can't be sure about anything. My cousin's little girl was diagnosed with some serious problems before she was born, and her parents were told that she would never be even close to normal. Even when my cousin was in labor the doctors urged her to have a partial-birth abortion. Now, their little girl is five. She is perfectly healthy, with NO health or mental problems whatsoever. She's actually one of the brightest, most personable little girls that I know.
WOW, that is amazing. Thank you for posting this (and the rest of your post, too). I cannot imagine being urged to have a partial birth abortion. It's barbaric.
And to the responses to my Ectopic pregnancy question, you're right... I don't have as much information as I'd like in order to decide something so huge myself. This is why there need to be rules/definitions in place for abortions. Prior to Roe v. Wade, there were plenty of legal exceptions and medical reasons to take care of an imminent miscarriage before it got dangerous, for example. There was absolutely no reason to expand those laws into an "Open Season" type policy, if you will.
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