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I stated that SDA official statements indicate her writings carry divine authority for doctrine, and that that they CORRECT inaccurate interpretations of Scripture.
Folks can sort that out pretty easily.
That does not matter since there is zero logic/motive/reason to do it in the first place.
It's like saying "Ellen White told Adventists not to avoid drinking water" - there is no reason to do such a thing. So nice that she said it - but this is not exactly rocket science since our denomination is already committed to testing all doctrine sola scriptura. Which means all of our doctrinal presentations are ... wait for it.... sola.... scriptura
You state he is an administrator and did not edit or change doctrine. I did not claim he changed doctrine. I stated that it is an example of the use of Ellen White's writings by the church.
Bob, people can read.
The SDA church is quite open about saying that Ellen White's writings carry divine authority
You yourself claimed on this thread that God's prophets speak with prophetic authority. Are you wanting to study the doctrine of prophets and the gift of prophecy - from the Bible now? is that the new direction?
And they indicate she corrects inaccurate interpretations of Scripture.
Indeed. However, since you are putting Ellen White's writings in the position of correcting interpretations of Scripture, you are in fact doing it backwards.
What you called "Pastor Wilson" in your reference to one of the church's late administrators is not an example of setting doctrine, establishing practice, or a church vote on any particular statement. spin it as you will - the facts speak for themselves in this test case as we see in the first six posts - Question for Seventh Day Adventist --
I am counting on it
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You yourself claimed on this thread that God's prophets speak with prophetic authority. Are you wanting to study the doctrine of prophets and the gift of prophecy - from the Bible now? is that the new direction?
Indeed. However, since you are putting Ellen White's writings in the position of correcting interpretations of Scripture, you are in fact doing it backwards.
And while Ellen White said to go by Scripture, not her writings,
As much as you would like your six posts to be the test case, rather than the official statements of the church
But we don't claim our doctrines are based on her prophetic statements - as we both know.
the facts speak for themselves in this test case as we see in the first six posts - Question for Seventh Day Adventist --
No, you just state that her statements on doctrines others came up with are the correct interpretation, .
as you already admitted - a heated debate in the 1800's in the SDA church was over the LAW in Galatians 3. And as I stated it was the topic of her claim that the LAW in Galatians 3 is primarily the moral law of God that condemns someone until they come to faith in Christ - but that in a secondary sense it is the ceremonial law pointing to the sacrifice of the Christ.
Leaving his part of our discussion out - leaves the reader with a less than accurate impression of what we have already posted on that point.
And of course Ellen White said not to entertain Scripture arguments against the special points of the Adventist faith.
There are zero official statements from the church rejecting sola scriptura testing of all doctrine -- rather the official statements insist on it.
Belief #1 - of the 28 Fundamental Beliefs
- Holy Scriptures
The Holy Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration through holy men of God who spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to man the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the authoritative revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God’s acts in history. (2 Peter 1:20, 21; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Ps. 119:105; Prov. 30:5, 6; Isa. 8:20; John 17:17; 1 Thess. 2:13; Heb. 4:12.)
You have been pretty consistent in not quoting this statement in your representations
This is me posting for the zillionth time:
the facts speak for themselves in this test case proving sola scriptura testing for all doctrine as we see in the first six posts regarding future judgment - Question for Seventh Day Adventist --
Again you inject Ellen White into a doctrinal discussion???
No Bob, I did not inject this statement. The GC session did:
So your posts on one thread are more representative of the Adventist church than their own official statements? .
And of course, folks should read more than your six statements. They should also read how you try to inject words not there into a number of Scriptures to uphold her view.
That was me in the post above asking if you had interest in the Bible study on the Bible doctrine of prophets and the gift of prophecy.
My point to you has repeatedly been that your "all Ellen White all the time" approach is not very compelling.
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