Setting the Record Straight

Michael · Mar 20, 2014

bhsmte said:
When discussing scientific view points, there is one equalizer that science relies on, evidence. Sure, there may be gaps in the evidence and some lean one way or the other, but that gets exposed eventually, because there are so many scientists gathering evidence. And I know, you don't feel they have certain things right and they are biased, I am fully aware of your opinion.

Ok, but as you can see with CDM, conflict between the 'evidence' and theory theory often arises, but it's subjectively ignored just like everyone else who engages in confirmation bias. The concept of evidence really doesn't apply to their *faith* in exotic forms of matter.

With God, no one can gather evidence to prove beyond a doubt that God does not exist.

How could I ever hope to "prove" that "space expansion" does not exist? I can't even get that far. Now add to that the concept that both 'inflation' and 'dark energy' are "causes" of this phenomenon, and you tell me how to falsify that huge metaphysical kludge?

I also can't prove that people were not abducted by aliens, so there are certain things that are driven harder by psychology compared to others.

IMO you're ignoring the fact that falsification and verification of any "God" theory entirely depends on the definition of "God" being used. Even concepts like 'soul' enjoy "mathematical models" that actually have been confirmed in the lab. That's *way* more than can or will ever be said for inflation or dark energy or space expansion claims in general.

Like I said, it comes down to the *physical* (or lack thereof) definition of God, and the "tests" you come up with in terms of the mathematical models. Your criticism doesn't actually apply to *all* concepts of God, and those very same criticism also apply to nearly *all* areas of theoretical physics.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7584137-74/#post64919132

Delphiki · Mar 20, 2014

I've come to terms with the likelihood that AV is not a poe. Someone on earth has to be him.

Strathos · Mar 20, 2014

AV1611VET said:
But he had Genesis 1-25, written in English, and translated it into Hebrew.

I don't think he did.

AV1611VET · Mar 20, 2014

Michael said:
He wouldn't be nearly so entertaining were he not so intelligent too, which is what makes him a very interesting enigma in my book.

Hey now, c'mon!

Let's not go overboard!

AV1611VET · Mar 20, 2014

Strathos said:
I don't think he did.

We don't believe God ever left the earth without His words written down somewhere.

If Moses didn't have the book of Genesis ... who did?

Strathos · Mar 20, 2014

AV1611VET said:
We don't believe God ever left the earth without His words written down somewhere.

If Moses didn't have the book of Genesis ... who did?

God. He gave it to Moses, in a form a man of his time would understand, of course.

AV1611VET · Mar 20, 2014

Strathos said:
God. He gave it to Moses, in a form a man of his time would understand, of course.

Then why is its long title: "The first book of Moses, called Genesis"?

And are you implying that Moses was the Joseph Smith of his time?

pgp_protector · Mar 20, 2014

AV1611VET said:
We don't believe God ever left the earth without His words written down somewhere.

If Moses didn't have the book of Genesis ... who did?

So God couldn't inspire someone to right it correctly, it Required God to write it down?

bhsmte · Mar 20, 2014

pgp_protector said:
So God couldn't inspire someone to right it correctly, it Required God to write it down?

Maybe God couldn't find good help back then.

AV1611VET · Mar 20, 2014

pgp_protector said:
So God couldn't inspire someone to right it correctly, it Required God to write it down?

What's wrong?

Does it bother you that I think Genesis was written in real time?

bhsmte · Mar 20, 2014

AV1611VET said:
What's wrong?

Does it bother you that I think Genesis was written in real time?

Doesn't bother me. What is your evidence?

Strathos · Mar 20, 2014

AV1611VET said:
Then why is its long title: "The first book of Moses, called Genesis"?

And are you implying that Moses was the Joseph Smith of his time?

Because it was the first of the books that Moses transcribed.

TLK Valentine · Mar 20, 2014

AV1611VET said:
What's wrong?

Does it bother you that I think Genesis was written in real time?

I can't speak for pgp, but it amuses me.

PsychoSarah · Mar 20, 2014

AV1611VET said:
Then why is its long title: "The first book of Moses, called Genesis"?

And are you implying that Moses was the Joseph Smith of his time?

I wouldn't insult Moses like that.

Radagast · Mar 20, 2014

bhsmte said:
I agree. AV wouldn't be near as entertaining, if he wasn't the real deal.

Well, please don't think he represents Christianity. He represents only himself.

PsychoSarah · Mar 20, 2014

Radagast said:
Well, please don't think he represents Christianity. He represents only himself.

I don't, he just represents AV.

bhsmte · Mar 20, 2014

Radagast said:
Well, please don't think he represents Christianity. He represents only himself.

I know.

Christians come with many variations and AV is AV.

Heissonear · Mar 20, 2014

AV1611VET said:
There's a goofy site that has me "apparently believing" the following; and I want to set the record straight here:

1. At one point everyone in the world spoke English.

This is correct.

2. That the mention of unicorns, dragons and behemoths in the Bible poses a problem for evolution.

It poses a problem for evolutionists.

3. Cratering was the result of a battle between angels and demons.

This is correct.

4. Unicorns were aboard Noah's ark and gave birth to different species of animals.

This is correct; but they gave birth after they left the Ark.

5. Leprechauns exist as a manifestation of demons.

This is correct.

6. The Earth was the first planet in existence.

This is correct.

7. Peer reviewed articles on evolution should be disregarded because they weren't reviewed by Jesus.

I don't know where this comes from.

8. Human beings are not Homo sapiens.

This is somewhat correct. I claim I refuse to accept that I am a Homo sapiens. However I acknowledge that Homo sapiens is just a term on paper, and I respect the right of others to label themselves as such.

9. Nero persecuted Christians for reversing the Earth's poles.

That was a joke; as was my Noah's Ark being a submarine thread.

10. Pangaea was actually Eden.

This is correct.

11. The three main rock types are "indigenous, megamorphic, and sentimental."

That was a joke.

12. Noah lived in present-day New Jersey.

That is correct.

13. That the dictionary is wrong in defining Christianity as a religion.

I may have said that at one time, but I've since softened up on that. I claim that, just as weight occurs when gravity is resisted, religion occurs when Truth is resisted.

14. Religious wars never occurred.

I don't remember saying that.

15. "Evolution teaches a monkey gave birth to the first human."

This is correct.

16. Atheism is a polytheistic religion.

This is correct.

17. Strong's Concordance is "a tool of Satan."

This is correct.

18. People should be proud of their own ignorance.

This is correct.

19. Science is unreliable because of new discoveries.

This is correct.

20. Anything that contradicts the Bible is wrong by default, including real life.

This is correct.

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PsychoSarah · Mar 20, 2014

Heissonear said:
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Looks like AV has a fan...

AV1611VET · Mar 21, 2014

PsychoSarah said:
Looks like AV has a fan...

Great minds think alike?

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