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I’m aware of the rationalization and special pleading required to accept ‘god doesn’t lie.’ I’m simply pointing out that your statement is wrong.Interesting verses. A quick google search I think gives some good additional understanding of the events. If you believe one is not covered or disagree i will take a closer look when i have time at your best single example.
https://carm.org/god-send-deceiving-spirit-1kings-22-22
http://www.tektonics.org/lp/lyingghosts.php
https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/does-god-lie
http://defendinginerrancy.com/bible-solutions/1_Kings_22.22.php
https://www.gotquestions.org/lying-spirit.html
I’m aware of the rationalization and special pleading required to accept ‘god doesn’t lie.’ I’m simply pointing out that your statement is wrong.
It's been advanced as a serious philosophical argument, though, notably by Alvin Plantinga. This response to Plantinga is quite readable (and I see is by somebody I knew when he was a grad student.)The OP reads like a giant argument from incredulity supported by dubious assertions.
This is never a good sign.If Evolution Were True
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Thanks for that link, it is a well-argued response.It's been advanced as a serious philosophical argument, though, notably by Alvin Plantinga. This response to Plantinga is quite readable (and I see is by somebody I knew when he was a grad student.)
This is never a good sign.
When in doubt, invent psychological motivations for your opponents. Doesn't actually score any points, but it makes you feel better, no doubt.The thought does scare many.
When in doubt, invent psychological motivations for your opponents. Doesn't actually score any points, but it makes you feel better, no doubt.
Evolution -- specifically common descent -- is accepted by the vast majority of biologists, whether or not they believe in a creator God, because it explains and predicts an enormous range of data about the real world. Creationism doesn't. That's the reality.
Faith is believing in something you know ain’t so.When in doubt, resort to logical fallacies for your opponents [majority opinion]. Doesn't actually score any points, but it makes you feel better, no doubt.
I am not here to "score point" in a creation vs evolution debate, future threads will do that. I will also address in depth your above argument when those proper threads come along.
“Simply put most people believe in evolution because most people believe in evolution. It is all they have ever been taught. If creation is ever mentioned it is ridiculed and unfairly catheterized, thus, evolution is assumed, not proved and creation is denied, not refuted”
-John Morris The Young earth
“He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.”
- Albert Einstein
“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.”
― Mark Twain
Faith is believing in something you know ain’t so.
-Mark Twain
Yeah, me too.
ToE is fact. Move along.
I’m really not interested in your silly prayers.Agreed, the issue is getting evolutionist to "move along" they would rather believe as they wish. Understandable, than they create the rules.
"We no longer feel ourselves to be guests in someone else’s home and therefore obliged to make our behavior conform with a set of preexisting cosmic rules. It is our creation now. We make the rules. We establish the parameters of reality. We create the world; and because we do, we no longer feel beholden to outside forces. We no longer have to justly our behavior, for we are now the architects of the universe. We are responsible to nothing outside ourselves; for we are the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever and ever.
"—-Jeremy Rifkin, Algeny (1983), p. 244.
John Lennox needs to read Sagan's Demon Haunted World. Would do him wonders and maybe his brain wouldn't freeze.Relevant quote
“Either human intelligence owes its origin to mindless matter or there is a creator. Its strange that some people claim that it is their intelligence that leads them to prefer the first to the second”
-John Lennox prof fellow of mathimaticks and philosophy of science oxford university 2009
Relevant quote
“Either human intelligence owes its origin to mindless matter or there is a creator. Its strange that some people claim that it is their intelligence that leads them to prefer the first to the second”
-John Lennox prof fellow of mathimaticks and philosophy of science oxford university 2009
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