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Well, its that time again when pagan holidays or "Holy Days" are quickly approching. None of this stuff is holy, it's pagan and offensive to God.

Yes, Santa is satan. Read the article below if you don't believe me. The holidays are drawing near, are you going to take a stand against paganism this year?

Santa Claus -THE GREAT IMPOSTER! -by Terry Watkins

How about halloween or easter? Nothing "Holy" about them either. Read more here: Pagan Christian Holidays

Do your homework, know what you're participating in. God gives us very explicit directions in His word the Bible concerning these things.

2 Corinthians 6:17 - Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

2 Corinthians 6:16 -And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?
 

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Well, its that time again when pagan holidays or "Holy Days" are quickly approching. None of this stuff is holy, it's pagan and offensive to God.
Well, there had to be someone here who felt that they were holy enough to tell God what is offensive to him.
 
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Well, there had to be someone here who felt that they were holy enough to tell God what is offensive to him.

The Bible makes it very clear that paganism is offensive to God. But, you are free to believe what you want, and celebrate what you want. It's your choice.

I choose not to participate in these things as I feel they do not bring pleasure and glory to God when mixed with paganism.

Personal choice, but you seem to have a personal problem with me and everything that I post. If you do, take it to me in a PM. Or better yet, take it to God in prayer because it could be a stumbling block for you.
 
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If you believe that Christmas is a pagan celebration, then don't celebrate it. Nobody is forcing you to. For those of us who celebrate the Nativity of Christ on that day, let's celebrate it with joy. However, there are Orthodox who use the Old Calendar and celebrate it on January 7. For those of you who are afraid that the celebration of Christmas on December 25th is a pagan holiday/custom, celebrate it on Jan. 7th instead.
 
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I couldn't read that link...they actually tried to use the excuse that Santa can be turned into satan by moving the letter n....no way.

Santa is a historically true person...St. Nicholas...nothing evil about that.
 
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The advent season is one of fasting, prayer, etc. We are not to make merry, as it were. Christmas Eve is supposed to be a strict fast day for the faithful. Holy Nativity is spent at church, celebrating Divine Liturgy.

Saint Nicholas, the Bishop of Myra, gave away his wealth to the less fortunate. He would likely be horrified that in the West, he's been reduced to a myth who brings frivolous things to those who aren't even in need.

The perversion, consumerism, and complete secularization of the Holy Day is very sad and unfortunate.

Also, Pascha is the Feast of Feasts where we celebrate the Resurrection of Christ. I didn't read your link- but this easter goddess stuff is patently false and has nothing to do with how the Church celebrates Pascha. I feel compelled to point out that in Latin it is referred to as Pascha or Festa Paschalia. Actually, so far as I know, English and German are the only two languages that refer to Easter/Ostern.

Just as an example of how other languages refer to the Resurrection:
Albanian: Pashket
Arabic: Aid ul-Fish
Bosnian: Uskrs/Vaskrs (literally 'resurrection')
Chinese: Fuhuo Jie (Resurrection Festival)
Croatian: Uskrs
Dutch: Pasen or Paasfeest
French: Paques
Greek: Paskha
Hebrew: Pascha
Italian: Pasqua
Japanese: Fukkatsu-sai (Resurrection Festival)
Persian: Pas'h
Polish: Pascha
Romanian: Paste
Russian: Paskha
Spanish: Pascua
Turkish: Paskalya
Serbian: Uskrs/Vaskrs
Slovak: Vel'ka' Noc (The Great Night)
Ukranian: Paska

Oh, and Pascha baskets? It's filled with foods we don't eat during Great Lent. That is all. It's also been much commercialized in the West. As a parish, our priest blesses the baskets and we break the fast together in a huge to-do 'till like four somethingish in the morning- after we've been in Church celebrating the Feast of Feasts! It's the most awesome thing ever- you're really missing out. NOTHING else I've ever experienced in any kind of church even REMOTELY compares to Pascha in an Orthodox Church.

On Holy Days we celebrate the liturgy. I didn't realize that the Eucharist was considered pagan by some. I need to be there for the body and blood of Christ, the fountain of immortality.
 
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The legend of Santa Claus is based on the very real and the much revered Saint Nicholas. A Greek bishop who serves as a model for Santa Claus by the many accounts of his secret givings.


Commemorated on December 6


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The legend of Santa Claus is based on the very real and the much revered Saint Nicholas. A Greek bishop who serves as a model for Santa Claus by the many accounts of his secret givings.


So what does the real Saint Nicholas have to do with some big guy in a red suit and hat, that flies around in the sky in a sleigh pulled by magical reindeer, and mythological elves?

Not to mention that he breaks into people's houses and scares little children and parents actually lie to their children which is a whole other issue.

Where does the yule log, mistle toe, christmas tree, and many other traditional christmas things come from? Ancient paganism.
 
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BTW, Lisa-Lisa- you've just lost major credibility points. Your link references Alexander Hislop's The Two Babylons. It is a book whose author made up source citations and was thoroughly debunked by someone who actually checked his sources. The thing is, the poor guy who checked the sources was hoping Hislop to be right, and sadly found he wasn't.
 
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Unfortunately Santa Claus is now portrayed as a man who rewards spoiled children with every material items that they desire. However it is the responsibility of every parent to teach their child about the model exemplified by the real St. Nicholas who gave his wealth freely to the poor and needy with no desire for reward or acclaim.

Christmas should be celebrated as truly a day in remembrance of that which Christ taught us, 'love our neighbor as ourselves' and 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.' Hence Christmas should be a day of 'giving' to the much broader family that extends to the whole of humanity. Perhaps we should all consider giving of our money and/or time to help the less fortunate this Christmas season.
 
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