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Via coding errors,
a gene is used t produce the protein needed,
Prove that genetic information is the result of random naturalistic mechanisms.
Why insert no God needed?
They neither evolve outside of programs, and neither self replicate such as animals do, I assume you at least accept the concept of micro evolution wich cars can't even do other then like I said through evolutionary algorythems.
Your the one asserting that god does it, we have the natural mechanisms already and can see them doing it on their own, the onus is upon you to show that what we clearly see isn't whats going on.
Fact errors occur during replication, and such especially during egg/sperm
Fact each human has a hundred or so errors that were not present in the progenators.
Fact if these error arn't fatally dangerous they are kept in the genome
Fact over time these errors can acumilate and prodouce beneficial traits as I've already shown multiple times.
You want to say these things come about by god, or something god did, I'm saying we have these facts no need to say every time these happen it's god, unless you want to assert that the multitude of embryo's and such that never make it to childbirth or die shortly afterwards due to fatal errors was god creating these errors on purpose each like, that a child born with harlequins disease due to a genetic error, was gods plan for that to happen.
What kind of code? Remember, there's no programming, no information.....what kind of code exists without programming and information?
How? What process (void of programming and information) produces that gene?
Nothing in the program produced a car. Find a car that's been manufactured without a designer and get back to me
While cars cannot self-replicate as animals do, when one examines a car there's no question that it's a designed product.
first, its quite apparent that some genes do not evolve in the darwinian sense.
second, each "kind" of animal does indeed have a unique origin.
Once again, there's not a programmed process for copying genes?
Anyone can make a claim, including scientists. Is the evidence based on the scientific method though? If it is, show it.
Nobody's disputing small changes over time. Bacteria are still bateria, finches are still finches, moths are still moths. Where the issue arises is when a view of evolution is presented which claims that all life was created from an alleged single life form by random, mindless, meaningless, purposeless and goalless naturalistic mechanisms. One view is based on the scientific method, the other on mere assertions.
A lizard is a lizard is a lizard. Venom or no venom.
Prove that genetic information is the result of random naturalistic mechanisms.
Why insert no God needed?
I'm saying that snakes and lizards are snakes and lizards no matter the potency of their venom.
A platypus is a platypus is a platypus.
While cars cannot self-replicate as animals do, when one examines a car there's no question that it's a designed product.
No, the burden is on those who claim that there is scientific evidence that only naturalistic mechanisms created humanity and all life we observe today from a single life form of long ago.
You're simply describing micro evolution.
If you wish to claim that only naturalistic mechanisms created a pine tree and elephant from a common life form, it's up to you to support it.
I'm not changing the goal posts, I'm asking for evidence for a car which is produced without a designer.
Cars are complex, functional and purposeful creations with a designer.
Your response? An intellectually dishonest one liner that can literally be used against ANY controlled experiment. Pure anti-science rethoric.
in all honesty, science cannot reduce the TOL down to a single origin.
this has a couple of possible implications.
first, its quite apparent that some genes do not evolve in the darwinian sense.
second, each "kind" of animal does indeed have a unique origin.
And it has been presented.
The response from your side is exactly what loveofyourlord said: "I object" followed by nonsense.
You claimed that evolution is incapable of producing things that appear designed.
I just gave you black on white evidence that this is incorrect...
Which is an evolutionary process that starts with random shapes like
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And which results in shapes like this, each of them highly specialised for the track they find themselves on
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Which is a direct refutation of your point. Literally.
Your response? An intellectually dishonest one liner that can literally be used against ANY controlled experiment. Pure anti-science rethoric.
If you aren't even capable of acknowledging a simple point like this one (that evolution is more then capable of producing designs), then what is the point in continuing with more advanced, more complex things?
The car designs themselves were not designed but the intelligence behind the ability to produce them very much designed the program using information that was not randomly produced or articulated into the program.These "car designs" aren't created by a "designer":
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Rather, these specified, functional and irreducibly complex designs were evolved by the simple process of mutate, survive, reproduce, repeat.
They look to be outcomes from a intelligently designed program that pre-programs information into a computer simulation and using that information creates random simple to complex car designs using the principles known for evolution.
I never specified designed purpose. You asked what purpose was in living forms. Move the goalposts much?
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