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Ditto.I'm not interested in playing along with your pretense of hostility,
My posts of the scriptures equal the scriptures.I'm not reading previous posts.
furthermore, your interpretation =/= the scriptures.
Satan quoted scriptures to Jesus in the desert, but this did not make them true.My posts of the scriptures equal the scriptures.
--you would've known that had you bothered to look.
Sorry, but one of us started out by twisting what the other said, to such a degree, as to cause doubt as to whether or not the other had at all read what was said.Ditto.
All I get here is I didn't address you, and you started arguing with me and accusing me of stuff.Sorry, but one of us started out by twisting what the other said, to such a degree, as to cause doubt as to whether or not the other had at all read what was said.
The pretense here is not shared.
Heb 4:1-11, v.9, is referring to the weekly Sabbath of Ex 20:11; Dt 5:15,There is more than one Sabbath in the Bible. There is the moral Sabbath that God established at creation before sin Genesis 2:3 and than wrote in stone Exodus 20:8-11. God said His Sabbath is a perpetual covenant, meaning it can not be broken ever. The Sabbath you are referring to in Colossians is the ceremonial Sabbath(s) the Sabbath festivals, if you read Colossians 2:16 its all about food and drink and there is nothing in God’s commandments about food or drink Exodus 20. God asked us to REMEMBER His Sabbath which is why on the New Earth all will worship Him each and every Saturday. Isaiah 66:23.
The scriptures are true, but to cite them as Satan did, in part, out of context, and contradictory to the meaning is sin, mortal sin, in-fact.Satan quoted scriptures to Jesus in the desert, but this did not make them true.
Why should I? According to the latter half of James Chapter 3, there's no reason to go look. I'm feeling the need to pray fervently from the posts that I have read. Very disorienting spirit.The scriptures are true, but to cite them as Satan did, in part, out of context, and contradictory to the meaning is sin, mortal sin, in-fact.
I cite the scriptures complete, in context, and in harmony with the meaning--something you would've known had you bothered to look.
I pointed out, with specificity, what you did, and you pretended as if it were my fault, which only served to add to the incredulity of what you first said; as does this response now.All I get here is I didn't address you, and you started arguing with me and accusing me of stuff.
So that's pretty hostile.
This is odd, are you sure you didn't reply to my post initially by mistake? I don't recall having a reason to discuss things with you.I pointed out, with specificity, what you did, and you pretended as if it were my fault, which only served to add to the incredulity of what you first said; as does this response now.
--Instead of continuing in your wasteful pretense, why not just address what I've proved by the scriptures here on this thread?
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." --Proverbs 18:13Why should I?
Your effort at ad hominem is the real disorientation from what is at issue here--so, again, why not just put that same effort to responding to what I've proven by the scriptures?I'm feeling the need to pray fervently from the posts that I have read. Very disorienting spirit.
Fundamentally, there are two ways that you can be guided through life to do God's will: the law and the Holy Spirit. If you haven't been born again and received the Holy Spirit then you must be guided externally by the law. If you have been born again and received the Holy Spirit then you are guided internally by Him.
They cannot co-exist! If you received the Holy Spirit you are "dead to the law"!
If you haven't been born again then there must be external rules in place to guide your behavior (and the behavior of others). So there is a definite need for law, both God's law and human law (in that order).
Do you normally enter such a deep pretense on accident? if so, I must say, I find that hilarious.This is odd, are you sure you didn't reply to my post initially by mistake? I don't recall having a reason to discuss things with you.
Your sarcasm is fitting.It seems like some sort of strategy to get people to look at your posts by starting an argument, but no one does that so .... anyway, whatever just happened, I'm sure It'll be a repressed memory before long.
Jesus replaces Moses as the Mediator/Lawgiver, and was giving new law.
Please some clarification needed :
A. What exactly do you mean by "dead to the law"?
B. What or which law are you referring to?
With respect, I didn't think about it at all: I just defer to what God says--I'll post the reference further below.
Adam didn't know either, but ate for another reason.
That theory is contrary to what God says.
Yes, in part, for the denial of the tree of life did prevent the ongoing of his life.
Man does indeed know good from evil--wisdom in his own eyes is just a result of evil, not the knowledge thereof, but it's effect.
What God says about this matter:
"And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life." --Genesis 3:22-24
Yes, Satan is indeed a liar, but more specifically, the father of it, yet you failed to see his lie in the garden, for in all that he said, he lied but in one thing alone, when he said, "Ye shall not surely die."
This is the lie that pervades all religion, to this day, the immortality of man, presupposed, with or without God: the first lie remains, unchanged, throughout the ages. --the Dragon succeeds in deceiving the whole world, but the very elect of God, for they have been preserved from his power to twist God's word, thus it is impossible for them to be carried away. Amen.
To love each other as God commands, presupposes loving God, for the command follows from God, thus to love God first is required; thereby is the order preserved; otherwise, the affection towards others would be inordinate.
Moses was Mediator/Lawgiver.I don’t think Jesus replaces Moses.
Jesus is also new Lawgiver (Mt 5:23-47, 12:7-8, 19:9, 21:23-27; chp 23.I also would not call it a new law.
I put quotation marks around the word law to show something. Not to insinuate Jesus command was a new law per say.
But the man who was healed had to make a choice. I whole heartedly believe that he made the choice he did because he knew he was not ‘breaking’ Gods laws by doing so.
The problem is that mankind thinks they know how to interpret Gods laws. Jesus made sure to let us know that we have no clue how to interpret them.
I would guess that 99% of the people on this forum would say they have never murdered anyone. But, if we were to apply what Jesus said He considered murder, that number would be 0%. In fact, some are guilty of doing it while participating in this thread.
"He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." --Proverbs 18:13
Your effort at ad hominem is the real disorientation from what is at issue here--so, again, why not just put that same effort to responding to what I've proven by the scriptures?
Do you normally enter such a deep pretense on accident? if so, I must say, I find that hilarious.
Your sarcasm is fitting.
Truly, instead, why not just spend the time in a dialog about what the scriptures say?
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