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I'm not a Democratic Party member, or a voter. I'm not even from USA.
The election results came in. Biden won the popular vote by over 7 million more votes than Trump.Well then how can you be sure Biden won?
The election results came in. Biden won the popular vote by over 7 million more votes than Trump.
With regards to the electoral system (which is the official system for determining the elected president) Biden got 306 vs Trump's 232
With regards to the 60 court cases the Republican Party submitted, they all failed in the courts.
On Jan 6th the election result was confirmed by the Senate
On Jan 20th Biden was inaugurated.
The opposition talking point and sound bite, guaranteed to excite the blood of all true believers, typed out with admirable loyalty, although misguided and misplaced.
I see I struck a chord.
Nope, I'm just a parrot and repeat what those on the other side parrot from their leaders.
I was hoping you were about to make a claim to original thinking.
I would you hope for that? I am just one of the indoctrinated socialists serving in the military that isn't up to snuff with the Russians. God bless Ted Cruz and his Soviet Supermen.
I know your post is tongue-in-cheek/sarcastic, but there absolutely was a coverup/propoganda campaign waged by the mainstream media and international health organizations to silence any inquiry regarding potential origin in a lab.
This is an article from the Washington Post yesterday, which summarizes it, albeit still doesn't talk about how dishonest it was for people to characterize the lab theory as "conspiracy theory" when the real origin was actually unknown.
Some highlights:
July 4 (2020): The Times of London reports that a virus 96 percent identical to the coronavirus that causes covid-19 was found in an abandoned copper mine in China in 2012. The bat-infested copper mine in southwestern China was home to a coronavirus that left six men sick with pneumonia, with three eventually dying, after they had been tasked with shoveling bat guano out of the mine. This virus was collected in 2013 and then stored and studied at WIV.
March 22(2021): The Australian newspaper reports: “Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers working on coronaviruses were hospitalized with symptoms consistent with covid-19 in early November 2019 in what U.S. officials suspect could have been the first cluster.”
Timeline: How the Wuhan lab-leak theory suddenly became credible
It's becoming increasingly clear that they're backtracking from their original narrative because the most likely scenario is actually a lab accident. It was reported in March of this year that Wuhan Institute of Virology researches had been hospitalized with Covid-like symptoms back in November 2019.
Back in July 2020, it was known that the WIV was storing/working with coronavirus samples which match 96% to Covid-19.
Yet as recently as a few weeks ago, posters on these forums - all liberals - were still calling the possibility it was released from a lab "conspiracy theory", because the MSM and Fauci were still propagating that narrative.
In that same thread, an article by Nicholas Wade was presented - the overwhelming response by the left was "why should we listen to Nicholas Wade"?
Well, the Washington Post seems to think we should listen to him. From that same article:
May 5: Former New York Times science reporter Nicholas Wade, writing in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, reviews the evidence and makes a strong case for the lab-leak theory. He focuses in particular on the furin cleavage site, which increases viral infectivity for human cells. His analysis yields this quote from David Baltimore, a virologist and former president of the California Institute of Technology: “When I first saw the furin cleavage site in the viral sequence, with its arginine codons, I said to my wife it was the smoking gun for the origin of the virus. These features make a powerful challenge to the idea of a natural origin for SARS2.”
I highlighted that those who were at the forefront of dismissing the lab theory of the origin of Covid were those who were performing/funding Gain of Function research in Wuhan, and, as such, were potentially culpable. Of course those same folks that derided the lab theory as "conspiracy" didn't hesitate to label such information as nonsense or unimportant.
When the "opposition narrative" turns out to be actual facts, that says a lot about the propaganda it is responding to.The opposition narrative typed out with admirable loyalty, although misplaced.
I did a web search for references to conspiracy theory and Covid during 2020. I checked the stories showing in the first page of results. They all referred to Covid being engineered in a lab, not to leaks. Probably someone referred to lab leaks sometime as conspiracy theory, but the term was mostly used to refer to the idea that the virus was engineered, and particularly claims that it was released intentionally by big pharma to sell vaccines. There really were conspiracy theories going around.ABC News’ Chief White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl admitted that many reporters were wrong to dismiss former President Trump’s assertion that the coronavirus originated from a laboratory.
Karl was asked on ABC’s "This Week," by guest host Martha Raddatz on why it matters that the lab-leak theory was initially met with dismissal or skepticism.
ABC's chief White House reporter: A lot of reporters have 'egg on their face' over Wuhan lab-leak theory
'Leaks' can be intentional or unintentional (see#87).I did a web search for references to conspiracy theory and Covid during 2020. I checked the stories showing in the first page of results. They all referred to Covid being engineered in a lab, not to leaks. Probably someone referred to lab leaks sometime as conspiracy theory, but the term was mostly used to refer to the idea that the virus was engineered, and particularly claims that it was released intentionally by big pharma to sell vaccines. There really were conspiracy theories going around.
I loved Karl's comments. He said the lab leak theory could still be true even though trump said it. It's reminiscent of the broken clock that is even correct twice a day hahaha.ABC News’ Chief White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl admitted that many reporters were wrong to dismiss former President Trump’s assertion that the coronavirus originated from a laboratory.
Karl was asked on ABC’s "This Week," by guest host Martha Raddatz on why it matters that the lab-leak theory was initially met with dismissal or skepticism.
ABC's chief White House reporter: A lot of reporters have 'egg on their face' over Wuhan lab-leak theory
The second story seems not to have been accepted by other experts, even now.'Leaks' can be intentional or unintentional (see#87).
Fox News reported in April about increasing confidence that the COVID-19 outbreak likely originated in a Wuhan laboratory, though not as a bioweapon but as part of China's attempt to demonstrate that its efforts to identify and combat viruses are equal to or greater than the capabilities of the United States.
Multiple sources who had been briefed on the details of early actions by China's government and who had seen relevant materials told Fox News.
Ex-MI6 boss says coronavirus likely engineered in Wuhan lab
And Covid-19 matched 96% to a virus being stored and studied at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).
And 3 researchers working at the WIV went to the hospital in November 2019 with "Covid-like symptoms".
And there was a 2018 report of the WIV that there safety measures were inadaquate.
July 4 (2020): The Times of London reports that a virus 96 percent identical to the coronavirus that causes covid-19 was found in an abandoned copper mine in China in 2012. The bat-infested copper mine in southwestern China was home to a coronavirus that left six men sick with pneumonia, with three eventually dying, after they had been tasked with shoveling bat guano out of the mine. This virus was collected in 2013 and then stored and studied at WIV.
March 22(2021): The Australian newspaper reports: “Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers working on coronaviruses were hospitalized with symptoms consistent with covid-19 in early November 2019 in what U.S. officials suspect could have been the first cluster.”
Timeline: How the Wuhan lab-leak theory suddenly became credible
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Absolutely no supporting evidence of the wet market theory. They have not found any trace of the alleged host animal at any wet market in Wuhan or otherwise.
Of course, this was posted earlier in this thread, but let's go with "The only actual evidence for this conspiracy theory of there being a lab origin to this virus is that there is a virology lab in Wuhan. Not much to go on really"
Apparently they were hospitalized. Flu can sometimes be that serious, but if three people from the lab were hospitalized at the same time with flu like symptoms that’s interesting. The first known case outside the lab is Nov 17, so the timing is tight.Common flu maps pretty close to the virus in terms of symptoms. Just because people got sick in late 2019 does not mean they had cv19. There is no real evidence here.
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