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In OT times the Sabbath was on Saturday the seventh day of the week.

The NT church began to meet on Sunday, the first day of the week, since this was the day that Christ rose from the dead.

You will not go to hell for not "keeping the Sabbath." You will avoid hell by the grace of God through faith in Christ.

Jesus said that the Sabbath was created for man, not man for the Sabbath. Therefore, the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath. (paraphrased)
 
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Sabbath means to rest. We rest from our own works of righteousness in the righteous work done by Jesus at the cross. Jesus is our sabbath rest, and we abide in Him and the rest He has provided seven days a week.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
 
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I think your question begs more information regarding the Sabbath and its observance. I hope this report helps you which is from a Seventh-day Adventist's perspective.

This is just a part of the article which was taken here
http://biblicalresearch.gc.adventist.org/documents/sabbathobservance.htm

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Document note: (ie..disclaimer)
It is not intended to serve as a set of ecclesiastical legislations, but instead to make available the results of exploring the elements involved in faithful Sabbath observance.
Although its work was based on careful study of the Scriptures, accompanied by the counsels of the Spirit of Prophecy, the Commission was specifically asked to address and make recommendations on how best to deal with contemporary issues that impact Sabbath observance today. Therefore the reader will find a number of quite specific recommendations that address specific matters, although many more could easily come to mind. The study was presented in the interest of encouraging worldwide unity of understanding and practice among Seventh-day Adventists, who now represent the largest Sabbath-observing faith community in the world, being present in more than 200 of the world's nations.

Sabbath Observance—Guidelines

Purpose and Perspective

The main objective of this document on Sabbath observance is to provide counsel or guidelines to church members desiring a richer, more meaningful experience in Sabbathkeeping. It is hoped that this will provide an impetus toward a real reform in Sabbathkeeping on a worldwide basis.
Conscious of the fact that the worldwide worshiping community encounters numerous problems in Sabbath observance arising from within a given cultural and ideological context, an attempt has been made to take these difficulties into consideration. It is not the intent of this document to address every question pertaining to Sabbathkeeping, but rather to present biblical principles and Spirit of Prophecy guidelines that will assist the church members as they endeavor to follow the leading of the Lord.
It is hoped that the counsel given in the document will be helpful. Ultimately, however, decisions made under critical circumstances must be motivated by one's personal faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Sabbath—A Safeguard of Our Relationship With God

The Sabbath encompasses our entire relationship with God. It is an indication of God's action on our behalf in the past, present, and future. The Sabbath protects man's friendship with God and provides the time essential for the development of that relationship. The Sabbath clarifies the relation between God and the human family, for it points to God as Creator at a time when human beings would like to usurp God's position in the universe.
In this age of materialism, the Sabbath points men and women to the spiritual and to the personal. The consequences for forgetting the Sabbath day to keep it holy are serious. It will lead to the distortion and eventual destruction of a person's relationship with God.
When the Sabbath is kept, it is a witness to the rest that comes from trusting God alone as our sustainer, as the basis of our salvation, and as the ground of our hope in the future. As such, the Sabbath is a delight because we have entered God's rest and have accepted the invitation to fellowship with Him.
When God asks us to remember the Sabbath day, He does so because He wants us to remember Him.

Principles and Theology of Sabbath Observance

Nature and Purpose of the Sabbath. The origin of the Sabbath lies in Creation when God rested from His work on the seventh day (Gen. 1-3). The Sabbath has significance as a perpetual sign of the everlasting covenant between God and His people in order that they might know who it is that created them (Ex. 31:17) and sanctifies them (Ex. 31:13; Eze. 20:12), and that they might recognize Him as the Lord their God (Eze. 20:20).

Uniqueness of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a special occasion for worshiping God as Creator and Redeemer and as the Lord of life with whom the human family will be reunited at the Second Advent. The Sabbath commandment forms the center of the moral law as the seal of God's authority. Since it is a symbol of God's love relationship with His earthly children, human beings are obliged to respect this gift in the sense that they will do everything in their power to promote and engage in activities that will help establish and enhance a lasting relationship with God. Thus His people will engage only in those activities that are directed toward God and their fellowmen, and not in those that lean toward self-gratification or self-interest.

Universality of the Sabbath. The universality of the Sabbath is rooted in Creation. Thus its privileges and obligations are binding in all nations, sectors, or classes. (See Ex. 20:11; 23:12; Deut. 5:15; Isa. 56:1-8.) Sabbath observance pertains to all members of the household, including children, and extends even "to the stranger that is within thy gates" (Ex. 20:10).

Time Frame of the Sabbath. Biblical Data: The Sabbath starts at the end of the sixth day of the week and lasts one day, from evening to evening (Genesis 1; Mark 1:32). This time coincides with the time of sunset. Wherever a clear delineation of the time of sunset is difficult to ascertain, the Sabbathkeeper will begin the Sabbath at the end of the day as marked by the diminishing light.

Principles Guiding Sabbath Observance. Although the Bible does not deal directly with many of the specific questions we may have regarding Sabbath observance in our day, it does provide us with general principles that are applicable today. (See Ex. 16:29; 20:8-11; 34:21; Isa. 58:13; Neh. 13:15-22.)
"The law forbids secular labor on the rest day of the Lord; the toil that gains a livelihood must cease; no labor for worldly pleasure or profit is lawful upon that day; but as God ceased His labor of creating, and rested upon the Sabbath and blessed it, so man is to leave the occupations of his daily life, and devote those sacred hours to healthful rest, to worship, and to holy deeds" (The Desire of Ages, p. 207).
This concept, however, is not supportive of total inactivity. Both the Old and New Testaments invite us to care for the needs and alleviate the sufferings of others, for the Sabbath is a good day for all, particularly the lowly and the oppressed (Ex. 23:12; Matt. 12:10-13; Mark 2:27; Luke 13:11-17; John 9:1-21).
Yet even good works on the Sabbath must not obscure the chief biblical characteristic of Sabbath observance, namely, rest (Gen. 2:1-3). This includes both physical (Ex. 23:12) and spiritual rest in God (Matt. 11:28). The latter leads the Sabbath observer to seek the presence of and communion with God in worship (Isa. 48:14), both in quiet meditation (Matt. 12:1-8) and in public worship (2 Kings 4:23; 11:4-12; 1 Chron. 23:30ff.; Isa. 56:1-8). Its object is to recognize God as Creator and Redeemer (Gen. 2:1-3; Deut. 5:12-15), and it is to be shared by the individual family and the larger community (Isa. 56:1-8).

Sabbath and the Authority of God's Word. Ellen White points out that the Sabbath commandment is unique, for it contains the seal of God's law. It alone "brings to view both the name and the title of the Lawgiver. It declares Him to be the Creator of the heavens and the earth, and thus shows His claim to reverence and worship above all others. Aside from this precept, there is nothing in the Decalogue to show by whose authority the law is given" (The Great Controversy, p. 452).
The Sabbath as a sign of the Creator points to His ownership and authority. Meaningful Sabbath observance, therefore, indicates the acceptance of God as Creator and Owner, and acknowledges His authority over all creation, including oneself. Sabbath observance is based on the authority of God's Word. There is no other logical reason for it.
Human beings have the freedom to enter into a relationship with the Creator of the universe as with a personal friend.
Sabbathkeepers may have to face resistance at times because of their commitment to God to keep the Sabbath holy. To those who do not recognize God as their Creator, it seems arbitrary or inexplicable for someone to cease from all work on the Sabbath day for merely religious reasons. Meaningful Sabbath observance testifies to the fact that we have chosen to obey God's commandment. We thus recognize that our life is now lived in obedience to God's Word. The Sabbath will be a special test in the end-time. The believer will have to make a choice either to give allegiance to God's Word or to human authority (Rev. 14:7, 12).
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Finally, we are saved by grace through faith. And that means any form of work doesn't save us. However, if we know what is right and don't do it, that would be our downfall and would be cited as "evidence" of disobedience in the final judgement. So for example, not everyone has the Sabbath truth, and so if they have lived according to what they know is right, they will still be saved if they die before the Lord comes. I guess what i want to stress here is that we should live according to the knowledge given to us. If we go against that, then not even Christ's death can save you because you have willfully disobeyed his commandments.
 
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Sabbath means to rest. We rest from our own works of righteousness in the righteous work done by Jesus at the cross. Jesus is our sabbath rest, and we abide in Him and the rest He has provided seven days a week.
Amen!!!! Your rest is in Christ, and it is available to you constantly, whether it be Saturday, Sunday, Wednesday, any day inbetween... as for which day you worship... WORSHIP EVERYDAY!!!!!!!
 
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Where in the OT does it say Saturday, and where in the NT does it say Sunday? I've heard both days as well, but when I go to actually find the days in the Bible it doesn't state is specifically...So one doesnt really know, it could be Tuesday or Thursday, right?
 
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There are at least five ways to show that the Saturday is the 7th day of the week—the Sabbath.

1) BIBLE: According to Luke 23:54, Jesus was crucified on the Preparation Day. His followers
rested the next day "according to the commandment" (Luke 23:55-56). Jesus rose from the dead the
first day (Luke 24:1; Mark 16:9). If Jesus rose on what we now call Sunday—as most Christians
believe—then the previous day, Saturday—the Sabbath—was the 7th day according to the
commandment.

2) LANGUAGE: In over 100 languages in the world, the word for the day we call "Saturday" is the
word "Sabbath." For example, in Spanish the word for Saturday is "sabado."

3) DICTIONARY: According to the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language 1978
ed.), Saturday is "the seventh day of the week."

4) CALENDAR: According to most calendars today, Saturday is the 7th day of the week.

5) HISTORY: The Jewish people have kept an accurate record of Sabbath-keeping for over 4,000
years. The 7th day that they meet on for Sabbath services is Saturday.
 
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adamdavid said:
Amen!!!! Your rest is in Christ, and it is available to you constantly, whether it be Saturday, Sunday, Wednesday, any day inbetween... as for which day you worship... WORSHIP EVERYDAY!!!!!!!

Although i agree with your concept of worshipping everyday, i have to respectfully disagree with your implication that the Sabbath can be everyday. You can ask your pastor, he will tell you that the biblical Sabbath is on a Saturday. If he tells you that the Christian Sabbath is everyday, he's not answering your question really. Further probe him on showing you clear passages on how the bible actually defines the Sabbath.

"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. "Gen 2:1-3

Also, the Sabbath (7th day) was blessed since creation week. On no other instances did God bless other days or even rested specially on it. He did not bless and sanctify sunday, mon, tues, wed, thurs or friday. If given a choice free from bias and external circumstances, what day would you logically choose? Certainly the 7th day because you know it is blessed and that God had rested on it.
 
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A day is temporary and will not exist in eternity, but Jesus, our rest in whom we abide, will be there in eternity where there are no days or time. Jesus did not do away with the law, but fulfilled it, making it complete. In Him dwells the fulness of the Godhead bodily, and we are complete in Him with nothing else added.
As you mentioned earlier, there will be those that will judge and condemn others over the keeping of the sabbath day, but I will not. I see both days set apart for men to regard in their hearts as the Spirit of God leads them. Saturday is the sabbath of law, and Jesus the Sabbath of Spirit.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Col.2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power

Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord’s.
 
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raphe said:
I see both days set apart for men to regard in their hearts as the Spirit of God leads them.

I would appreciate if you could give direct scripture support for the observance of Sunday as a day of worship in the same likeness as what is given for Sabbath worship as stated in the 4th commandment. So far in my personal study, i've not seen Sunday venerated to the same level as that of the Sabbath as a day of worship. Furthermore, the Sabbath was blessed, sanctified and rested on by God(Gen 2:3) for which Adam and Eve had enjoyed this special day. And in mark 2:27, we see the Sabbath being reaffirmed that it was made for man. It was a day set aside for "special" worship because it was set apart by God. Sunday did not receive the same blessings or sanctification or rest by God.
 
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Avenged Sevenfold said:
is the Sabbath sat or sun? and if I dont keep it holy will I go to hell? a preacher told me this I think he was a Seventh day Advent.
According to the Bible, the only non-observance that send's people to hell is the non-observance that Jesus is Messiah and acceptance of Him into one's life as Lord and Savior.

I encourage you to pray and read and mull over what you have read so far and do as God leads you. There are many area's that each of us fail in observance to what God has written in His Word. . .thank God that we are saved by grace through faith in Him.
 
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First of all this is not a forum for debate. The original poster was told he would go to hell for going to Church on Sunday, the Lord's day, when the first Church gathered together. It is also obvious that history has set aside both days as days where people can regard the day as to how their own conscience towards God tells them and as is supported by the Word of God I supplied in the previous post (Rom 14:4). Straining knats to swallow camels does no good for the new Christain to see, just like the Pharisees who constantly pursued Jesus to argue over the law. They did not recognize Him as the fulfillment of the law or love as its fulfillment, and those that preach hell for worshipping God, and judging others to hell about the days they set apart to God are wrong and bucking the plain scriptures just to nit-pick. "Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:" As Romans 14:4 tells us to not judge others for regarding a day unto the Lord, it is against God's Word to go ahead and do so. Understanding the law and its fulfillment only gets difficult when men want to justify themselves with their own simple works of righteousness rather than trust and rely on the fact that God has already justified then in Christ. Those that abide in Him are dead to themselves and their own filty rags as works of justification and are alive to Him in love and service to all. Not one jot or tittle of the law is lost or done away with when it is fulfilled and completed in Jesus Christ (it is finished John 19:30).
There will be a time in the millineum, during the reign of Christ, when He will rule with a "rod of iron", that the unsaved nations left on the earth will have to participate in the feast of booths, but even there the sabbath appears in the person of Jesus without mention of the day in Zechariah. The saints with judge and rule with Him for that thousand years, but when this earth is replaced by a new heavens and earth, we will be with the living sabbath, Jesus, in whom we rest, forever. No one is saved by observing a day, but by having faith in Jesus Christ who is Lord of the sabbath. The Sabbath is, ofcourse, precious, and those in the Old Testament that did not observe it are likened to those in the New Testament that have trampled the blood of Jesus underfoot, regarding it not, and are ready and in danger of destruction.

Ac 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

1Co 16:2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

Ro 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

Zec 14:16 Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations
that went against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the
King, the LORD of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Booths.

Revelation 19:15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty

Revelations 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Simply, and for the original posters benefit, both days have been set aside in history for man to not work on those days. Some people, like the Jews, have been born and brought up to observe Saturday, and even the Messianic Jews that believe in Jesus still hold to that day, which is fine. Those of the Church are usually born and raised meeting on the first day of the week, as did the disciples, but even they would go to Saturday worship at times, becoming, "all things to all men, so that by all means some could be saved", (1 Cor.9:22), when evangelizing through the reading of the word in the synagogues.
Actually, to God's glory, nearly the whole world goes by the Judeo-Christian work week. These two witnesses to the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob have influenced the entire world's structure from man's begining.
To judge others to hell for regarding days or new moons would be dangerous, because by the measure one judges, so shall they be judged by that measure.

1Co 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

Mt 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Ac 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
 
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I hope this will answer some of people questions

from the magazine : A time for joy. web site : www.projectrestore.com



A letter wrote to Pope Pius XI , May 22, 1934
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Thomaston , Georgia

May 22, 1934
Pope Pius XI
Rome , Italy

Dear Sir:

Is the accusation true that Prostestants accuse you of ? They say you changed the Seventh Day Sabbath to the so-called Christian Sunday : Identical with the First Day of the week. If so, when did you make the change and by what authority ?

Yours very truly
J.L. Day (signed)

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Answer :

The Catholic Extension Magazine
180 Wabash Ave., Chicago, Illinois
(Under the Blessing of Pope Pius XI)



Dear Sir:

Regarding the change from the observance of the Jewish Sabbath to the Christian Sunday , I wish to draw your attention to the facts.

(1)That Prostestants , who accept the bible as the only rule of faith and religion , should by all means go back to the observance of the Sabbath. The fact that they do not , but on the contrary observe Sunday , stultifies them in the eyes of every thinking man.

(2)We Catholics do not accept the Bible as the only rule of faith.Besides the Bible we have the living Church, the authority of the Church, as a rule to guide us. We say this church, instituted by Christ to teach and guide men through life, has the right to change the Ceremonial Laws of the Old Testament ; and hence , we accept her change of the Sabbath to Sunday. We frankly say "Yes, the Church made the change, made this law, as she made many other laws, for instance the Friday abstinence, the un-married priesthood, the laws concerning mixed marriages , the regulations of Catholic marriages, and a thousand other laws.

(3) We also say that of all the protestants, the Seventh-day Adventist are the only group that reason correctly and are consistent with their teachings. It is always somewhat laughable to see the Protestant Churches , in pulpit and legislature, demand the observance of Sunday , of which there is nothing in the Bible.

With Best Wishes,
Peter R. Tramer , Editor (signed)

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under the blessing of Pope Pius IX , this catholic writer say that there is nothing in the bible to demand the observance of Sunday. He did not write anything , especially not from a magazine like that. Catholic have change the observance of the Sabbath , and this is the reason why , now the question is : Do you accept the bible as the only rule of faith or do you accept also the living Church (the authority of the Church, as a rule to guide them)

You still need to keep the Sabbath if you believe that the bible is the only rule of faith ... It's clear in the bible that Sabbath as not change , and even catholics (the magazine and under the blessing of the pope) say so.
 
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Avenged Sevenfold said:
is the Sabbath sat or sun?

Neither.

Now, under the new covenant, Jesus has become our Sabbath but I think the answer you're looking for is Saturday.

Just remember that Christians aren't bound to any day of the week for our rest, but to Christ, who is our rest.

and if I dont keep it holy will I go to hell?

People go to Hell because they're seperated from God by sin. Are you seperated from God or are you reconciled to Him by Christ?

a preacher told me...

He was wrong.
 
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