Remarriage after Divorce

dayhiker said:

Do you have a good link for that?

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Agunah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dr. Claude Mariottini - Professor of Old Testament: Agunot: Chained Women

Total Health -- Divorce and Remarriage: The Jewish Agunah, the "Chained Wife"


Essentially, the idea is that Jesus was addressing a form of Jewish abuse towards women. Men were "putting away" their wives without a divorce decree and keeping the dowry for nearly any reason.

dayhiker said:

My view on divorce is that Jesus wasn't making a blanket statement about divorce. During Jesus' day there was a debate about Dt.24:1. That's what he was asked about and that's what Jesus answered. There were other reasons for divorce in Jesus' day and Jesus says nothing about those reasons.

The best view form my studies is David Instone-Brewer's book Divorce and Remarriage in the church. It was online years ago. Here is a one page web site on it.

Divorce & Remarriage - Scripture in Context

Links may get you to the book.

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Great points. I've often noted that the question was with regards to the Law. We are no longer under the Law.

Divorce and remarriage is yet another example of how relativism has influenced the present day church.

SweetBella said:

Can you only remarry IF your first spouse dies? What are you thoughts on what this scripture means:

Romans 7:2-3
For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man.

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In this passage, what is being spoken of is "law". This is NOT a New Testament decree regarding divorce and remarriage, but rather it was Paul talking about the law of the time. Husbands were allowed to divorce their wives, somewhat easily might I add, under the law -- but women were not afforded the same privilege.

This is also a good example of taking scripture OUT OF CONTEXT. If you take the time to read the verse that comes after these verses, you'll find that:

"[4] So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.

They are talking to the Jews about transitioning from their old traditions, to Christ.

The verse doesn't imply that someone can't marry another person, but it is actually saying that they CAN marry another person because these laws are NOT the laws of Christ, plain and simple.

Verse 1 stated "Do you not know, brothers and sisters —for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives?" and then we have the passages above, and then verse 4 states "So you also died to the law through the body of Christ"

In other words... the law no longer applies. I wish people would realize what these things are actually saying based on context.

renewed21 said:

Divorce and remarriage is yet another example of how relativism has influenced the present day church.

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Divorce and remarriage is yet another example of how far better exegesis by well informed, competent Jesus loving expositors making use of a far larger stock of information from that period has influenced the present day church.

John
NZ

If one does not believe in absolutes, then by all means one may consider themselves competent and well informed.

Unbiblical divorce is an example of how our society and church at large has moved away from using absolutes to determine truth, morals and purpose of life. We got rid of classic concepts of right and wrong to fit/justify our behaviors under the guise of being more informed, more existentially aware of God's Love.

God hates divorce. Jesus preached against divorce. I'll take their Word for it.

renewed21 said:

God hates divorce. Jesus preached against divorce. I'll take their Word for it.

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I will take their word, rightly understood, too.

John
NZ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBOgH5f36cQ]

It ain't necessarily so??

Puptart said:

In this passage, what is being spoken of is "law". This is NOT a New Testament decree regarding divorce and remarriage, but rather it was Paul talking about the law of the time. Husbands were allowed to divorce their wives, somewhat easily might I add, under the law -- but women were not afforded the same privilege.

This is also a good example of taking scripture OUT OF CONTEXT. If you take the time to read the verse that comes after these verses, you'll find that:

"[4] So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.

They are talking to the Jews about transitioning from their old traditions, to Christ.

The verse doesn't imply that someone can't marry another person, but it is actually saying that they CAN marry another person because these laws are NOT the laws of Christ, plain and simple.

Verse 1 stated "Do you not know, brothers and sisters —for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives?" and then we have the passages above, and then verse 4 states "So you also died to the law through the body of Christ"

In other words... the law no longer applies. I wish people would realize what these things are actually saying based on context.

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Very good observation. People actually base "religions" and even whole denominations on a single verse here or there. I also think its smart to know the culture of the time because that puts a lot of things into context as well. When I started studying that, my reading of the Scriptures became richer for having done so.

Im gonna put in what i feel god has lead me to believe on Divorce and Remarriage.

1. God hates divorce, he wants us to work out our issues but he knows both parties may not be willing. The bible is very clear about divorce and remarriage '' IT IS NOT ALLOWED" i wont argue what the bible says but let me give you a perspective of what i feel is the Beautiful truth about God.

When we sin be it sexual sin ( King David himself was a sexual sinner ) or we tell a lie it is all the same to god SIN.. When we do this it puts our salvation in jeopardy, however God knows were imperfect. He knows that there will be broken marriages and he also knows people will get remarried. He should know this he built us this way to love and want to be loved and knows we live in a fallen world.

So here is my developing thought im not saying its right but its how i feel im being lead to believe. When a man Commits adultery, and his spouse decides to leave, i believe the spouse who wanted to stay and whos heart was right with god can remarry.

The condition is that the adulterer has truely repented he is dealing with his sin PERSONALLY with God and let me say God and God only knows the adulterers heart. And if this adulterer corrects his mind heart and soul to the will of God and his wife refuses to take him back... and God knows that she would not take him back because she is an unbeliever and unable to forgive then God could very well give his blessing to the adulterer to move on.


God knows everyones heart heck God knows everything. When god forgives people of there sins he throws them away and forgets about them. The key is TRUE REPENTANCE. You cant just say well God im sorry i cheated or im sorry i walked out on my wife or husband for irr reconsiable differences but im asking for forgiveness and im gonna do that repentent thing to make myself feel like im right with God. To me Jesus was talking about unbelievers when he said adulterers will not enter the kingdom of heaven, people who are not SAVED by Christs blood are still bound to the old law because they refuse to follow Jesus who saved us from a law we as humans cannot follow on our best day.

So anyone can get remarried if they have completely and totally repented of there sins, and has followed Gods will since the repentance. Here is the thing if you just ask God to restore your marriage and your spouse is a believer as you are then God by his own words will bless those two.

Here is the reason God would allow the adulterer to remarry, The adulterer has repented and seeks God for the proper Godly healing, He or she deals with the issue of being unfaithful and makes there intentions pure. Now Two things could happen God could set the stage ( so to speak ) for the spouse to want to come back. Or if God knows the other party ( the victim of the adultery ) is too hard of heart to forgive and God knows mans every intention then and only then do i believe God would release the believer to Remarry a christian.

So to sum it up only God knows each married persons heart, he knows what they think and feel, he knows if someone is never going to surrender themselves to Christ. And for that reason ''God has called us to peace'' Meaning he wants us to be happy. If he knows you need that companionship then he will make the way for you to be remarried. EVEN if your the adulterer.

I have commited adultry and was well aware at the time that it was very wrong. I had my reasons and I I will not try and justify them. However, I do know that I have God in my heart and he knrw what I was going through when I commited the sin. I repented for my actions and God has forgiven me.

TexasRedneck said:

I have commited adultry and was well aware at the time that it was very wrong. I had my reasons and I I will not try and justify them. However, I do know that I have God in my heart and he knrw what I was going through when I commited the sin. I repented for my actions and God has forgiven me.

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That's beautiful & honest. Thank you. Be aware, though, that there still might be some who would tell you you're going straight to hell. If so, please ignore them.

What's the difference between sex & copulation?

dorig59 said:

What's the difference between sex & copulation?

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Every human being has a sex, except maybe hermaphrodites. But not everyone with a sex copulates.

LinkH said:

Every human being has a sex, except maybe hermaphrodites. But not everyone with a sex copulates.

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I think you mean "gender". IOW....."every human being has a "gender", except maybe hermaphrodites. But....not everyone with a "gender" copulates (or has sex).

SweetBella said:

Can you only remarry IF your first spouse dies? What are you thoughts on what this scripture means:

Romans 7:2-3
For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man.

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Hello, I answer this question in Chapter 5 of my book, "Divorce: In the Bible". One, it is pertenant to those asking about remarriage because Paul says the exact same phrase "bound by law" about a wife's husband in 1 Cor. 7:39 (nkjv, kjv). But, Paul was not talking about divorce in remarriage in 1 Cor. 7:39 but the woman being released from guilt of remarrying another man though he "slept" (died). For, if you remember earlier, in the Gospel a question was purposed to Jesus asking about a woman who had seven husbands (they were all brother's according to the Law of Moses in taking up your brother's wife) and they asked Jesus who's wife will she be in heaven. Jesus said, they will not be married in heaven or still married, but will be like the Angles in heaven. This question in 1 Cor. 7:39 was like it. If your believing husband sleeps (in the Greek meaning her husband was a believer) they thought she was to remain unmarried even though she was a widow because he only slept and never tasted the second death.

So, Romans 7 was talking about polyandry of the woman. The Jews wanted to be married to the Law of Moses but also Christ. Paul was saying, you have to be die to the Law of Moses before you can be married unto Christ.

I hope this helps!