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newnature

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When we accept this idea of conditional forgiveness/forgiveness on the installment plan; a little forgiveness here, a little forgiveness there, the need for new forgiveness for new sin, that’s the atonement program of Israel, not the reconciliation program of the body of Christ.

We need to understand that forgiveness was all upfront and all-inclusive. It took place when Christ said that it is finished. God knows about it, and he wants us “humankind” to know about it, because they think he is alienated from them, in his mind, when they sin. He put all that sin on his son long before those people were ever born, and now he wants them to accept that reconciliation. God is not holding or charging that sin to their account.

If you want God to view you today, you got to be in his son. How can you get into his son, and have all of his righteousness freely imputed to your account? By simply taking God at his word, concerning what his son accomplished for you. It is as simple as that. When God says he is satisfied with what Christ did for your sins, when Christ died for them, all your sins were all future. It is a son issue on your part, not a sin issue, in order to receive the gift of salivation.
 

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Regarding "reconciled with God" signifies that through Christ's death God changed our status. The eternal problem that is not the simple is receiving the objective reconciliation through Christ in faith is the personal reconciliation

God gives us a life time to enter upon his grace by means of a true "faith," i.e., the one true way, or ways, of God producing this justifying "faith." Each has diverse way, or ways of God producing a justifying faith, where each think they have the correct way ... "the inconvenient Biblical truth has been replaced with a convenient lie."
 
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Your explanation is OK, but who are you thinking of when you talk of forgiveness on the installment plan? To the best of my knowledge, all Christian churches believe that forgiveness is complete when given, even if we may fall later and need forgiveness again (a la the thinking of the RCC).
 
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Well, Newnature, I agree with much of what you said, and need to add something here. Anyone who will come to God "...must believe that He is, and He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him" (Heb. 11), which means to receive His "great salvation" in His beloved Son ---the Lord Jesus Christ (note the fullness of 1 Jn. 5:10-13).
 
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I hope we are all saying that one must be "born anew"?
 
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