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Racism on display at University of Virginia

Ken-1122

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Nobody in these pics do either...

The Black Panthers were a political organization. They along with the nation of Islam were known for their professional dress, organization, and structure. I have never heard of them referred to as thugs.




Yet, both were labelled as "thugs" at various points in time.
This appears to be a street gang judging from their tattoos. I can understand a street gang being called thugs, but who do you recall ever referred to the Black Panthers as thugs?

Who referred to this rap group as thugs?
 
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That's one particular example...

However, there was also a time where this:


Was viewed as "thuggish"...

Militant perhaps...but that's the point of the black Panther party uniform.

The US has a history of viewing anyone who "doesn't conform to the way conservative white people think other people should dress" as "dressing like a thug".

Blacks and Hispanics have both had to deal with that over time.

I think what you mean is that there are cultural norms of dress in every nation and if you don't conform to them...you stand out...for better or worse.

That's not really the issue here though...

Gang culture in hip-hop: A quick look into its relevance in 2019

Criminal gang culture has heavily influenced the black male community through music and movies. This isn't even really debatable...a lot of the fashion directly translates from one to the other.

For example...here's a pic from an article about a violent criminal who robbed a drug dealer during a home invasion and terrorized the guy's family.



Brooklyn man found guilty of robbing drug dealer, terrorizing his family in brutal home invasion stickup

It's not some accident that this guy looks like he could have stepped out of almost any rap video in the last 30 years. That's entirely deliberate...that's the look they're going for frequently...that's the look they're selling.

Now, I can understand why you might think that an employer shouldn't just assume someone is a criminal because of their dress...and I agree. Let's be honest though, if the look you're going for is synonymous with that of thieves, drug dealers, and loosely organized crime...it would probably be easier to drop all that, pick different clothes, and get a job than it would be to convince people to ignore the obvious associations.
 
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The first group's manufactured image presented them as clean-cut neighborhood kids, while the second group's manufactured image presented them as delinquents.

That's the difference.

Swap it around and you'd probably have had far different responses.

It doesn't matter whether or not the image was "manufactured" or not, the fact that "white boy band" gets labeled as neighborhood kids while a rap group gets labelled as "delinquents" is the key distinction to be made.

Both are just examples of "silly" ways young men in their teens & 20's choose to present themselves to get attention from the general population.

The fact that the "black version" is considered more thuggish or "delinquent" is telling....
 
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This appears to be a street gang judging from their tattoos. I can understand a street gang being called thugs, but who do you recall ever referred to the Black Panthers as thugs?

Would you like to re-phrase your response there? If having some ink and wearing a flannel shirt with only the top button buttoned makes you a thug, then the standard for defining that seems pretty weak.

As far as "who called the black panthers thugs?"
...various publications

The Black Panthers Were Murderous Thugs Who Don't Deserve Accolades

Just a Pack of Predators


Who referred to this rap group as thugs?

The NYPD’s Top Cop Says Rappers Are “Thugs.” That Old-Fashioned Rhetoric Is Scarier Now Than Ever.
 
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Would you like to re-phrase your response there? If having some ink and wearing a flannel shirt with only the top button buttoned makes you a thug, then the standard for defining that seems pretty weak.
I wasn't referring to their flannel shirts, I said their Tattoos. Like the tear drop below the left eye meaning you've killed someone.

As far as "who called the black panthers thugs?"
...various publications

The Black Panthers Were Murderous Thugs Who Don't Deserve Accolades

Just a Pack of Predators
The Black Muslims (as they were called back then) were judged as thugs as well even though they wore suits and ties! The Muslims and Panthers were judged on their behavior, not the way they dressed which is what this conversation is about

So a cop in New York says all rappers are thugs. Does this cop represent the entirety of America? No! That is his opinion. He probably have dealt with some thug rappers and is just voicing his opinion based on his limited experience with them.
 
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