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You say we all (which would include me) have given you something to think about, but I don't think you thought about my words at all. Rather, you saw that I suggested it's possible you could just repent of this foolishness concerning promises and move on, and that's all you wanted to see.
Now, here you are, suggesting that you're quite ready to make new promises, so long as they are "lawful and reasonable".
Of course, at the time you made this dumb promise about not playing cards, you did think it was lawful and reasonable, right? You said...
You made the promise because you thought it was unlawful to play cards and you thought it was reasonable to make a vow about not doing something unlawful. Now that you want to play cards again, you want people here to tell you that you're absolved of your promise, but you still stubbornly hang onto this idea that it's okay to make promises. Recall what I said in post #5
Turns out I was right; you were only talking about the cards. You haven't learned anything.
And, to make the issue all the worse, instead of just recognizing that you did something foolish and agreeing, with genuine humility, not to do it again, you've used Bible verses to justify breaking your word, as though the purpose of wisdom is meant to shield you from your own foolishness! This is not the kind of behavior expected form remorse and repentance. You even refer to the liberty that Christ offers, like a spoiled brat caught breaking the law, i.e. "my daddy is the sheriff so I won't face any consequences for my bad behavior".
It's disgusting to see the grace of God used like this.
John, sorry, but I'm not convinced on your interpretation of Matthew 5:34-37 and Jesus' words concerning vows. In the historical context, the Pharisees had different "levels" of vows / swearing which would make some of their promises essentially meaningless. Jesus is speaking about this practice and telling us to be people of our word. But, don't take my word for it, just look at any of the older commentaries such as Matthew Henry or John Gill on these verses. But, I respect your opinion and thank you for sharing. The cards are not so important to me, and if God dosen't want me partaking, I am glad to not partake. As I mentioned in the first post, I just don't want to continue in a legalistic belief if not necessary.
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