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Alpine said:Tell me where you think he is in error.
I could also search for calvinist errors, assembly of God errors, Moses errors or peacock errors and I bet I'd get all kinds of interesting results too.
Amen to that! at least Alpine and Sue have an understanding of the problems. and Justin, once again we'll have to agree to disagree on this. I believe that God can heal but I don't believe that He's obligated to do so in every case. It's too bad that you won't accept any OT proofs on this, but that's your priveledge to do so.While it is certainly true that people like me (or Aunt dottie who slipped on some ice and broke her leg) suffer as a result of the fall it seems to me your treading some dangerous waters. Is it any wonder why many people wander from those types of churches that pin much of the blame for their physical issues on the believer?
Hisgirl said:To Undecided--
Welcome sister! Bless you! Have you read the gospels? (Matthew Mark Luke and John) I would highly and strongly suggest reading these first. Then move on through the New Testament into the epistles....
Reading supplemental books CAN be good, as long as you have a solid Biblical foundation....The Bible should be your Holy Plumb Line by which all other words are judged.
The Lord is my banner said:As Justin says, "the fall of man" is a major, major issue.
Not that any individual sinned and thus brought sickness upon themselves, but that the Fall brought it upon the whole of creation and we are still living with the fallout.
Sickness is not God's plan.
I agree He will still bless us during it, He will work through us while we're sick, He doesn't accuse us or curse us.
But He doesn't desire it for us - He wants us whole, and if we're not, it's only because we live within the physical and temporal constraints of the broken world.
At the end of time, all will be healed, and at that time all will give glory to God.
As for the "benefits," spiritual or otherwise, of sickness, I can never see how my depression might have been a good thing, no way.
It distorted my self-image, my image of God, my relationships. How can any of that glorify God or enable me to know Him and walk with Him and reflect His glory?
The only good thing that might come from such a thing is the empathy and support I can offer others who suffer depression, but there may be better ways to get to that, and in any case, if all of us could receive full healing there would be no need for that kind of ministry.
God bless, love Sue
habeas said:hematohidrosis: Stedmans Medical Dictionary defines it: Excretion of blood or blood pigment in the sweat; an extremely rare disorder. During hematidrosis tiny capillaries in the sweat glands rupture under intense mental pressure.
catlover said:Good point, Jesus suffered, even though He was blameless.
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