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"The evidence is everything we do."
What findings? You say they fall apart, which ones? Can I suggest that you won't "rehash them" because you are talking nonsense? I'm happy to accept correction if there have been developments in the scientific community I've missed.
The "point" is that you claim that "their findings fall apart" which isn't really true.
The link to the thread was in the post you quoted.
Yes, answer those questions, or any of the other questions about genetic data that evolution answers.Answer those questions?
No, I mean provide the explanation that creationists constantly claim they have for the real data from biology. I've listed a few areas of real data. So where's the explanation?You mean I'm to waste my time tinkering with your so called tests because *you*/others are convinced that provides any proof at all?
The test -- the "proof", if you like -- of any model is how well it explains and predicts data. Evolution does that with the data from biology. As you've just demonstrated, you can't do that. So why are you wasting everyone's time?Show me some real proof of evolution.
Wrong, but then you won't even bother to learn what is and what is not evidence.Yes, been there and you haven't proved a thing. Let us know when you can stop claiming, and start proving.
Why do fundamentalists even CARE to propose a scientific view of creationism?
Until you learn what is and what is not evidence you will not let yourself understand.You may suggest what you like.
I was clear there too. Listen, if you don't want to accept what I say, that's fine, but that doesn't do away with my reasons for not wanting to bother....they are still in place whether you like them or not.
You'll not goad me into wasting my time on the same ol same ol.
Show me some real proof of evolution. If you have already done that point me too it, butt please, be sure it's dead proof of evolution, and doesn't waste our time.
And that's just the same old fried air atheists have to offer...Wrong, but then you won't even bother to learn what is and what is not evidence.
I have been catching up here and I continually see that all that creationists have is an argument from incredulity at best. Generally a true lack of understanding of how science is done at the most basic of levels is all that your side has demonstrated here.
Hahaha! I think that's pretty funny.Of course the reason that creationists are afraid of evidence is because they know that they do not have any.
You may suggest what you like.
I was clear there too. Listen, if you don't want to accept what I say, that's fine, but that doesn't do away with my reasons for not wanting to bother....they are still in place whether you like them or not.
You'll not goad me into wasting my time on the same ol same ol.
Show me some real proof of evolution. If you have already done that point me too it, butt please, be sure it's dead proof of evolution, and doesn't waste our time.
Once one watches those findings fall apart time after time....what's the point
And that's just the same old fried air atheists have to offer...
Hahaha! I think that's pretty funny.
It's probably you who ignores it.
Our reality is proof of a Creator in itself.
You on the other hand have condemned yourself into believing all of it came about for no reason, without purpose, by dead unconscious forces.
Forces of which you have no idea as to how or why they came to be.
Then point out where in the link. Surley you were able to understand that was my request....Geez
After a decade i fear it is no use..
No, i think you're just blind to their case(s) for creation and against evolution.Eh, I'm not surprised. There has been nothing new in the ID camp for the past decade or so, and most of the arguments are re-hashes of stuff which is decades old.
ID/Creationism is stuck in a rut in that regard.
Well, as i said, this can be used as a good piece of evidence to make a case for evolution, but i don't think it poses a problem for creationism.
But that's the assumption you use as a conclusion.
You decided: procreated mutations = evolution.
And in a sense this is true, but it's no explanation for purposeful complex systems arising over time.
Because you can not observe it.How is an observation of your lack of an education in the sciences "fried air"?
No, i think you're just blind to their case(s) for creation and against evolution.
It's beyond the realm of the natural sciences.
That doesn't mean science can dismiss it, it means they can not approach it.You fail to realise, as many do, that SCIENTIFIC in this case means NATURAL.
Theology is another ballpark altogether.
When you put a sticker on biology that says "evolutionary" it's still biology, based on the present reality of things.Again, not talking about evidence. I'm talking about direct application of knowledge based on evolutionary biology. In the case of phylogenetics, we're talking about applications of shared ancestry between spaces.
Not evidence. Application.
No genetics do that.Replication and mutation is part of the mechanisms of biological evolution. After all, we observe those happening in nature including the evolution of novel proteins or new functions. The Theory of Evolution describes how that works.
A lung, a liver, an eye, plants in an eco system, the flagellum, etcetera etcetera.... ... etcetera....."purposeful complex system" is just a gobbledegook phrase. What is purposeful?
Now that's an excellent question.Whose purpose?
Now who is being incredulous?What is complex? How does one define complexity of biological systems?
So it's not possible to approach supernatural things, which was your complaint earlier.Yes, scientific means natural. So what?
So it's not possible to approach supernatural things, which was your complaint earlier.
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