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What do you base it on, then?
The whole problem with this argument is that it assumes gay marriage is wrong, nonsensical, etc. It isn't, and the only reason you really give is "Gay marriage shouldn't be allowed because I don't like it." Convincing argument. Unfortunately denying someone their rights simply because you don't like it is a horrible reason to deny someone their rights. What's wrong with homosexual marriages being treated the same as heterosexual marriages?
(Off topic: Hi Caylin, glad to see you're back! I hope the op went well!)
Brennin: Your accomplishments aren't the only thing the decides how much of a failure you are. Your total inability to care about other humans shows you are about on par with some sort of rat or something.
Of course. Tell me Brennin, why DON'T you care about glbt people? As far as I can tell you would throw a party if we were all shot into the sun.
Agreed.I insist that gay marriage represents the greatest form of legalized child abuse ever written into law, because social experiments in other countries that allow gay marriage have shown that adult children of gay parents suffer from high rates of depression, anxiety and divorce.
Because gay marriage is a child-endangerment issue and not a religious issue, we must gear our efforts towards saving the child from being raised in these families.
I'm perfectly capable of fielding your insults. Unfortunately, when I do this (as happened in a discussion with FloatingAxe on another thread), my posts get removed. Would you care to continue this discussion at atheistforums.com, where the rules of engagement are much laxer?
Again, why not? I've never done anything to you. If you just went off and minded your own business, gay rights wouldn't impact you at all.
Agreed.
Thank you for stating your request kindly. But with respect, I don't need evidence to have an opinion on an issue.Tackleberry, Holy Roller has given no evidence whatsoever for his assertion, although he has been challenged to do so several times. I believe his assertion is a pernicious lie, akin to the kind of thing Hitler and his cronies used to say about the Jews. I hope you will suspend your agreement until you have seen some evidence.
Thank you for stating your request kindly. But with respect, I don't need evidence to have an opinion on an issue.
Why is that?I hope you are never called to jury duty.
Why is that?
I've already served as a member on a court martial; the military equivalant of jury duty. I helped punish someone for having child pornography.
Thank you for stating your request kindly. But with respect, I don't need evidence to have an opinion on an issue.
On what grounds do you base your opinions then?
My opinion is the informed one.
I, for example, would not make the gaff you made below:
So, is it a legitimate use of the commerce clause for a privately owned restaurant to deny service to persons of African descent?
The commerce clause is abused by those who forced businesses to accept customers they do not want to serve.
That is perfectly acceptable.
Even if that's true, I don't care.
Yes it is.Actually, the post of mine you cited is based on nothing of the sort.
Well then fine, but that does not give good reason to deny someone their rights. You're just denying someone their rights because you don't like them. If homosexuals are married, that's just as valid a marriage as a heterosexual marriage. And that shouldn't be changed because some people have their own little semantic definition of marriage. That's the equivalent of saying "I don't hire blacks because I only hire human beings". Apparently the guy saying this has some semantically ****ed up view on what a human being is. If the guy doesn't want to hire a black guy, then so be it, but making a ban on considering the black guy a human being is simply wrong. This is no different. You have made up your own little idea of what marriage is, so somehow this lets you call homosexuals morally reprehensible, even though they aren't. Even if you are forced to recognize their marriage...well, that's because they're MARRIED. If you don't agree with it, then you're wrong. If you don't like that they're married, that's another thing. There are people I don't think should be married (because of actual good reasons, like the guy is a **** or the woman cheats all the time), but I'm not going to say they aren't married because that's a false statement. There is no reason why a homosexual marriage is any less valid than a heterosexual marriage.I think private businesses should be able to discriminate against whomever they wish, even if I find their actions deplorable.
Okay...but we're talking about people's rights here. Homosexuals are entitled to just as many rights as heterosexuals.This is not a communist country, and homosexuals are not entitled to anyone's goods or services. Nor are regular people, for that matter.
"The fewer the facts, the stronger the opinion."Thank you for stating your request kindly. But with respect, I don't need evidence to have an opinion on an issue.
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