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"The Jews" do not bear guilt for Israel's illegal occupation of the occupied territories, or the illegal settlements built there.Or guilt for gaining land through warfare, when nobody else has. That is antisemitic. Especially when the warfare was self defense to begin with, both times.
Probably just to make your argument that the students are just virtue signaling and making themselves feel good look terrible.Why are they caving to a bunch of kids?
Which are not occupied, nor illegal. They were attacked, and Hamas will lose and those that support them."The Jews" do not bear guilt for Israel's illegal occupation of the occupied territories,
Read about the 1967 war and the West Bank. Then you shall find out about the occupied territories.Which are not occupied, nor illegal. They were attacked, and Hamas will lose and those that support them.
Or brainwashed by paid influencers. these are all over our schools not just colleges either. Even here I think.Probably just to make your argument that the students are just virtue signaling and making themselves feel good look terrible.
This is elegant, thank you.Probably just to make your argument that the students are just virtue signaling and making themselves feel good look terrible.
No the Palestinians and Arabs bare the guilt for that."The Jews" do not bear guilt for Israel's illegal occupation of the occupied territories, or the illegal settlements built there.
Your probably right. They are just virtue signaling and once this is over will just start again.Probably just to make your argument that the students are just virtue signaling and making themselves feel good look terrible.
That’s how “the redress of grievances” works, though…this is “normal”.Your probably right. They are just virtue signaling and once this is over will just start again.
I didn't realize we were responsible for the actions of a mob 2000 years ago, assuming your bible is accurate about the incident. I wonder how this squares with:If you are literally speaking all Jews in Israel or even Jerusalem at the time you are correct. But the majority of the people at the so called trial were Jewish calling for his death. Combined that the Jews, even today, reject Jesus as their Messiah lends credence to that stance.
You are encountering something called "Replacement theology", the belief by some Christians that G-d has discarded the Jews and given Christians his covenant. Aside from the fact that this directly contradicts the Torah and is based on classic antisemitism, even their own bible does not support this or the idea we are forever responsible.I'm not interested in any gods, but I'm going to call your antisemitic remark antisemitic.
First, you need to confirm that violence is being perpetrated by the protestors on the campus. I have not seen convincing evidence of such. Then, fine, go ahead and arrest.Yes, any violent protester that takes over a building should be jailed, just as these Columbia protestors need to be jailed for (same with the ones that invaded the Capitol in 2021, but that is for another thread).
My objection is that campuses are a place for learning, and students should feel safe learning. Walk out protests can be held, but just keep them away from schools. I am anti-war actually (I do not like the IDF hurting innocent people in Gaza, and I despise Hamas). Both sides need to root out the evil first, and come to a peaceful agreement.First, you need to confirm that violence is being perpetrated by the protestors on the campus. I have not seen convincing evidence of such. Then, fine, go ahead and arrest.
Is your objection to the violence, the taking over of the building, or the theme of the protest? I would feel more respectful of your position if you indicated that you deplore the actions of elements of the Israeli state in Gaza. It is possible to be pro-Jewish, pro-Israel and decidedly anti-current Israeli actions, which carry - from my perspective - the hallmarks of genocide.
Colleges and universities are also places for personal development and understanding ones role in society and responsibility for others. Frankly, paying the price of "feeling unsafe while learning" is a considerably smaller price than that being paid by the dead on either side in the current M.E. fracas. I'm not shedding any tears for any poor student whose complaceny is disrupted by colleagues responsible enough to protest on behalf of those who don't have the luxury of a generally peaceful education. I look to Ghandi for how to behave in these instances.My objection is that campuses are a place for learning, and students should feel safe learning.
No people bear collective guilt for things that only a certain subset did.No the Palestinians and Arabs bare the guilt for that.
Congressman praises heckling of Gaza protesters at University of Mississippi that included racist jeer
“Ole Miss taking care of business,” Republican U.S. Rep. Mike Collins wrote Friday on the social platform X with a link to a video showing racist jeers.
Separate from the legal aspects, these schools no doubt have Codes of Conduct and generally support wicked things like DEI. So if some of the protestors' conduct is sufficiently harassing to a particular chunk of the diverse and inclusive student body, there might be cause for administrative action from the schools.
Lol they don't even know if they gave a grievance. They are disrupting tge entire campus for other students on things they don't even know about. They might as we be disrupting things over their universities doing business with Martians.That’s how “the redress of grievances” works, though…this is “normal”.
You forget that Pilot found no guilt in Christ and was going to let him go. But the Jews raised such a fuss about he decided to see what they really wanted. He gave them a choice of a known criminal or Christ and they chose the criminal. Then he asked them what they wanted to do with Jesus and they wanted a crucifixion. He gave them what they wanted and washed his hands of the whole thing. Yes the Roman's did the act. But Jews wanted it. Note what Peter a Jew says.You are encountering something called "Replacement theology", the belief by some Christians that G-d has discarded the Jews and given Christians his covenant. Aside from the fact that this directly contradicts the Torah and is based on classic antisemitism, even their own bible does not support this or the idea we are forever responsible.
While it is true that their bible says a mob goaded Pilate into ordering the execution of Jesus, ultimately he was killed by the Romans. Somehow you don't see Christians claiming the Romans have "generational guilt" for killing their Messiah.
- The Jews were not in charge of Israel when Jesus lived, the Romans were. Apparently G-d decided to punish us for rejecting their Messiah ahead of schedule. The Jewish authorities did not have the power to order anyone killed.
- Crucifixion is not the method of execution for blasphemy in the Torah. In fact we are to avoid cruel and unusual punishment.
- Even if the Jews had been in power, the burden of proof for blasphemy charges are VERY high. In the Talmud it mentions rabbis having a discussion where they could only recall one time such an execution had ever been carried out in their lifetime. Even then they only heard about it, meaning it may not have even happened. There are no written records of anyone in Israel ever being executed for blasphemy charges.
- The Torah, in fact numerous times in the Tanakh HaShem specifically says people are not responsible for the sins of others.
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