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Hi, I was wondering if anyone else besides me is working on living up to this verse better. I believe that not only are we supposed to have time designated for prayer only, but also throughout our daily lives our spirits should be silently communing with and worshipping God. I try to do this, but it's not always easy. However, I believe that the closer a person is to Christ, the more natural this will become.

I just thought I would throw this thought out for discussion.

Blessings.
 

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The ability to pray without ceasing is a privilege. True joy and blessing comes from the constant communion with our heavenly Father. I also believe that for those in Christ, who are indwelled with His Spirit, it is impossible to not be in constant prayer because where we leave off the Spirit of Jesus takes over. The Holy Spirit is not something that comes and goes in the believers life .... it is a constant.

Blessings and peace.
 
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I was reading about a man who decidedto experiment with having 100% continuous fellowship with the Lord. His experiences seem out of this world- I think he got pretty close to praying without ceasing.....what a truly awsome goal to have.

Not long ago I started to use my journey to work in the morning (about an 1hour) to pray in the spirit . I've found recently that i've been praying in tongues in my head whilst doing some mundane task at work without even realising...... I think what you said is true - the closer to Christ you get the easear it becomes. I for one know that my flesh still protests loads if I pray for more than 30minutes in one session but i spirit over Body... besides the Lord is on my side!!!

Scripturally i think alot of the OT heroes prayed in the midst of activity at least once - you know for the help, counsel guidence....



but do you mean praying during a regular activity like doing the shopping (or taking in the harvest....)
 
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Praying without ceasing is to pray with the "nous"... this is well known in "The Orthodox Church"

Would you like to learn how?

It takes a bit of practice...

Forgive me..
 
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The Way of the Pilgrim, the Pilgrim Continues his Way and the Philokalia (the latter being harder to find) are all excellent works on Prayer without ceasing. They are all from an orthodox perspective, and the reading is sometimes a slog, but the underlying truths are worth the effort.
 
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Published by Orthodox Church in America, June 3, 2003
From Silence to Stillness
By V. Reverend John Breck
June 3, 2003, (OCA) -- There seems to be an unbridgeable gap between the richness of Orthodox tradition regarding "prayer of the heart" and the poor prayer that is part of our personal experience. Prayer of the heart requires "hesychia," a deep inner stillness that permits us to hear "the still small voice of God." Is that really within our reach today, given the conditions of stress, overwork and dispersion that so mark our daily life?

Most of traditional hesychast teaching was formulated by ascetic elders and transmitted to younger monks. It is a tradition developed in the monastery and aimed principally at monastic life. Its roots, however, go back to the New Testament and to Jesus' own teaching and experience.

Frequently the Gospels show Jesus separating Himself for a while in order to pray to His Father in secret. Then to His prayer there is joined that of others, persons who supplicate either Him or God the Father for mercy and forgiveness. "Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!" cries the blind beggar Bartimaeus (Mk 10:47). In Jesus' parable of the Publican and the Pharisee (Lk 18:9ff), the publican or tax collector cries from the depths of his misery, "O God, have mercy on me, a sinner!" Gradually, appeals such as these gave rise to the familiar formula of the Jesus Prayer, "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."

Throughout history, and perhaps especially in our own day, this prayer or some variant of it has served as the cornerstone of the prayer and worship of laypersons as well as monastics. Hesychasm, in other words, is not the product of a medieval controversy between Athonite monks and Latin theologians, as some have argued. It is an ancient yet living tradition that anyone, with proper spiritual guidance, can seek to internalize and experience as a primary means for creating and maintaining a deep, personal and unbroken communion with God.

"Let the remembrance of Jesus [that is, the Jesus Prayer] be present with each breath," St John of Sinai urges his monks, "and then you will know the value of solitude." St Hesychios the Priest, recalling these words of St John, adds, "Lash the enemy with the name of Jesus and, as a certain wise man has said, let the name of Jesus adhere to your breath, and then you will know the blessings of stillness."

Those blessings have been admirably described by Nikitas Stithatos in his treatise entitled "On the Inner Nature of Things."

Stillness is an undisturbed state of the intellect, the calm of a free and joyful
soul, the tranquil unwavering stability of the heart in God, the contemplation
of light, the knowledge of the mysteries of God, consciousness of wisdom by
virtue of a pure mind, the abyss of divine intellections, the rapture of the intellect,
intercourse with God, and unsleeping watchfulness, spiritual prayer, untroubled
repose in the midst of great hardship and, finally, solidarity and union with God.

Where do these glimpses into the hesychast tradition lead us? Is it really possible for us today, as monastics, clergy or lay people, to acquire the gift of ceaseless prayer, to sound the depths and scale the heights of "pure prayer"?

If we consider the lives of holy people such as St Silouan of Mount Athos, or Father Arseny (Streltzov) of the Soviet gulag, or countless lay men and women who make at least occasional use of the Jesus Prayer, the answer can only be that to a certain degree (that God alone determines) the possibility exists, at least to those who seek it fervently and with a profound longing.

In its purest form, certainly, it is not accessible to everyone. We know very well that many saints labored and prayed for years without ever being granted the gift of prayer that roots itself in the depths of the heart. And only a very few have ever known the grace and the ineffable joy of "pure prayer," in which the nous (the spiritual intellect) itself is transcended and the soul dwells with joyous ecstasy in perfect communion with God.

"He who has not transcended himself," St Maximus the Confessor holds, "and has not transcended all that is in any way subject to intellection, and has not come to abide in the silence beyond intellection, cannot be entirely free from change," that is, cannot enjoy perfect and unending stillness in blissful union with God.

Intellection, the faculty of the nous that allows it to apprehend spiritual realities directly, must itself be surpassed. Where this occurs, there a person comes to experience "the sound of sheer silence," the "silence beyond intellection" that enables one's entire being to be flooded with that perfect divine love which is the very being and life of the triune God.

For those of us who will never attain to such heights, there is still abundant hope and an abundant promise. Any one of us, if we desire it enough to pray for it without ceasing, can acquire some measure of the gift of silence that leads to stillness. And with that gift we acquire ears to hear the voice of God that speaks to us in the silence of our heart.

* The Ladder of Divine Ascent Step 27.61 (tr. Lazarus Moore, London 1959, p. 246).
* "On Watchfulness," in The Philokalia 1, p. 179.
* The Philokalia 4 (London: Faber & Faber 1995), p. 125.
* "First Century on Theology," in The Philokalia 2 (London: Faber & Faber 1981), p. 131.

from:http://www.orthodoxnews.netfirms.com/21/From%20Silence%20To%20Stillness.htm

It's a long road, and many never attain it... keep searching for the stillness...
This simple prayer said over and over and over again is the beginning....
The Orthodox use a "prayer rope" (like a rosery) while learning it...

"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."

Forgive me...
 
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Hi again,

I found an example of prayer during activity vs. time set aside for prayer.

In Nehemiah chapter 1, Nehemiah prays a long prayer. In chapter 2, he is in conversation with the king. In verse 4 the king asks him a question and before he answers he prays "to the God of heaven."
 
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Joshua spoke to the Lord just as he and his army were delivered from the 5 kings of the Amorites...

" Then Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, 'Sun Stand Still over Gibeon and moon in the valley of Aijalon...."

hmm can think of some more but cant remember where they are,, shall have to look them u0p later.
 
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Im trying to.

In December im getting a tatoo (a small one on my biceps) of the hebrew letters for '9' '3' and 'S'...

9am, 3pm, and Sunset were the times that the Jews (and early Christians, when permitted) went to pray in the Synagogues.

God Bless, metal.
 
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read "the practice of the presence of God." Brother lawrence did this well, if you just want to put yourself in constant thinking of God, which is good, but i think that just being completely His is better so you can like... be with Him without thinking that takes time tho, God bless
 
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I'm trying to live that way, and as time goes on I'm finding it easier because I have more to chat to God about as we get closer. I spend an hour with God in 'quiet time' each day, but throughout the day I am constantly talking to him, throwing up little one liners, just little things like thanks, or asking a question, or just asking him to be with me and guide me. Or if I'm doing something else, like the dishes, I just chat to him as I'm doing it.

When I first became a Christian I found this verse hard to understand, but as my relationship with Jesus has developed I've found I want to be talking to him more and more throughout the day like I would my best friend.
 
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