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Is it illegal to have an unpopular opinion in your country? What if that unpopular opinion is to deny the Holocaust?I don't think that having an unpopular opinion is against forum rules.
Nothing you wrote matters.Is it illegal to have an unpopular opinion in your country? What if that unpopular opinion is to deny the Holocaust?
It just so happens that distinctions and epikeia exist.
I won't be joining a virtue contest, but I am glad you see that breaching copyright rules is a form of stealing.So whaddya think... which of us is more ethical?
What kind of material do you create?I won't be joining a virtue contest, but I am glad you see that breaching copyright rules is a form of stealing.
Part of my income derives from my own copyright material. I hope you will see that for writers and artists it is a bit more more than a mere stroll round Morality Street.
Part of my income derives from my own copyright material. I hope you will see that for writers and artists it is a bit more more than a mere stroll round Morality Street.
Thank you for posting this, for two reasons:Ethics, fairness. The desire to have a system that allows continual exchange of items of value.
You assume everything comes from your God, but that is not the case. Civilizations and ethics come from people trying to live together over time.
Otherwise, we would be reduced to roving bands of robbers and warlords.
In the case of the artisan, whose value has none, they may stop creating or selling to people who prefer AI. Same with the game designer, they may just stop creating if their game is going to be stolen.
You assume there is nothing to prevent things from being stolen, but that is why there are laws.
You have stolen copyright material and that is your excuse? I know that ripping off music and games is often seen as victimless and stealing from the rich seems harmless.Then on behalf of anyone who has caused you any harm, may I say that I never meant to. The world has a tendency to desensitize us, not because we're bad people, but just because we're people.
You have stolen copyright material and that is your excuse? I know that ripping off music and games is often seen as victimless and stealing from the rich seems harmless.
It is still a crime. Just remember that.
I am glad you recognise that copyright infringements are a form of stealing. That has been my one and only point here.What is or isn't a crime doesn't concern me very much. What is or isn't ethical does. Methinks that you've conflated the two,
I am glad you recognise that copyright infringements are a form of stealing.
I created this thread here (below) if you'd like to give your opinion, or participate, etc.Just so that we're clear on this point, I think that the blanket statement that copyright infringement is a form of stealing... is wrong.
I say this with the stipulation that this thread is about what's ethical, not what's legal. To you, these may be one and the same thing, but to me they're definitely not. I'm always trying to determine the greater good, and to me the greater good isn't determined simply by monetary value, but by what society gains as a whole. Even if what it gains seems relatively insignificant. The compassion of society is far more important to me than what is often an insignificant monetary gain.
This is particularly relevant in the case of the poor and indigent, wherein the choice is either gain access to something by less than legal means, or do without it entirely... the higher the burden this choice places on someone, the more likely I am to simply overlook what's legal, and go with what my heart tells me is right.
There's a difference between someone who's perfectly capable of paying for something, but simply chooses not to, and a person for whom the choice really is a struggle. The very fact that the choice is hard, suggests to me that their heart is in the right place, and that in the long run society will gain more from turning a blind eye than they ever could by sticking to the letter of the law. Compassion, or the lack thereof, has side effects.
I would also like to acknowledge that there may be people reading this discussion who are confused, because they consider me to be a generally thoughtful and reasonable person. But in this case they may vehemently disagree with me, and that's fine, we don't have to agree on everything. But hopefully I've at least clarified my position, such that my intention isn't as irrational as it may at first seem.
I have repeatedly said that the ethics do not concern me here. Most people don't care much about the greater good when somebody steals their property.To you, these may be one and the same thing, but to me they're definitely not. I'm always trying to determine the greater good, and to me the greater good isn't determined simply by monetary value, but by what society gains as a whole.
Society gains nothing from dishonesty and that is why every society I can think of has punished thieves.
I have repeatedly said that the ethics do not concern me here.
I am sot struggling financially, but many artists are and the theft of their intellectual property is a serious concern for them. Fortunately the laws are clear.@Whyayeman
I'm guessing your not on the bottom rung, and maybe never have been, etc.
But and/or anyway, so you don't really care about what is truly right (ethical/truly just, etc), but only care if someone is taking your intellectual or artistic property?
Well, have you ever considered that may be just exactly why someone else is trying to take your artistic or intellectual property in the first place, etc? And doesn't give a darn about that, etc?
Sin everywhere and among everyone is the problem, and that's probably never going to end/change, etc.
People will probably all still always be doing injury to each other to their own injury, etc.
Especially when none ever cares about what is truly right, etc.
I'm not trying to justify anything here, but am just pointing out that no one ever really truly cares about what is truly right, etc.
Not those on the top, and not those on the bottom, so why would any of them care about downloading a few songs, or taking a few older video games/movies, etc.
God Bless.
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