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Physics and the Immortality of the Soul

Elendur

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Which games do you play? (don't tell me BF3)
I play plenty of games, not many First-Person-Shooters (or sports games, the horror) though so I haven't gotten to BF3 yet
Right now the ones in my focus are Diablo 3, League of Legends and Dwarf Fortress (though the latter won't be done for the nearest 20 years ).

Given the form of your question I take it you don't care much about BF3? Perhaps a bit outside your preferences?
 
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Yes you are right about BF3. I totally enjoyed BF2 and then they spoiled it all by turning BF into a console style game.

I also enjoy the Tomb raider games, Command and Conquer, etc.

My son is very much into league of Legends!

 
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Ignoring your usual obsession with labs - this statement is entirely false. Only a novice claims that current inflation theory violates general or special relativity. When you actually study it in detail - there is absolutely no constraint on the expansion of space-time within relativity - the mathematics of this is always expressed in terms of comoving coordinates, as I think you probably know. Not sure why you're throwing in such a basic error and ill-formed phrases as 'objects made of mass' - when otherwise your points are somewhat less easily refuted without resorting to fairly advanced ideas.
 
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Yes you are right about BF3. I totally enjoyed BF2 and then they spoiled it all by turning BF into a console style game.

I also enjoy the Tomb raider games, Command and Conquer, etc.

My son is very much into league of Legends!

BF2, C&C and tomb raider (though some better than others), you've got good taste
I'm not surprised that your son plays LoL it's one of the biggest online games right now, and growing.
Too bad about BF3 though so it's not a recommended game from your side?
 
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BF2 had amazing gameplay and strategy. Then they made BFBC2 which had very good destruction but less strategy and then they made BF3 which is made for consoles and ported over to PCs; It has less destruction than BFBC2 and almost no strategy and certainly has none of the features that made BF2 so successful. Don't buy BF3!
Also BF3 uses ORIGIN to be able to play and ORIGIN is basically SPYWARE! EA Games now know everything you have installed into your PC! Stay clear from ORIGIN and BF3.
 
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Ok, thanks for the info I'll keep that in mind.
 
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How about this then, Michael? There's enough fascinating material here to blow your mind. That bornagain77 seems to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of science:

Shroud of Turin continues to baffle researchers | Uncommon Descent
 
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Frank J Tipler has a book called "the physics of immortality"

and on the preface states:

"The "omega point" is a beautiful pure physics construct, and it should not be sullied by calling it "God".

what do you think he means by this?
 
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Frank J Tipler has a book called "the physics of immortality"

and on the preface states:

"The "omega point" is a beautiful pure physics construct, and it should not be sullied by calling it "God".

what do you think he means by this?
No one takes Tipler seriously.
 
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Frank J Tipler has a book called "the physics of immortality"

and on the preface states:

"The "omega point" is a beautiful pure physics construct, and it should not be sullied by calling it "God".

what do you think he means by this?
Pseudo-science is the most appropriate word to describe his work!
 
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Ignoring your usual obsession with labs - this statement is entirely false. Only a novice claims that current inflation theory violates general or special relativity.

Matter cannot travel faster than light according to GR, and "space" never does any magic expanding tricks in the lab. Objects move, but "space" does not.


The problem as I see things, is that "Godenergy" and "Godflation" isn't "incompatible" with GR theory either. I mean if you're going to stuff GR full of metaphysical entities, how is it then any different from a "religion"?

I hear you, that "technically" it's acceptable to do such things in GR in terms of the math, but in terms of empirical physics, it's a giant step backwards IMO.

What's worse IMO is that plasma redshift has already been documented in the lab, and the "smoking gun" that kills your interpretation is the fact that the various wavelengths do not all arrive at the same time as "predicted" in an expansion theory. You're interpretation is pretty much in opposition to the empirical facts, where as a simple plasma redshift theory is not. There are even C# models now to "explain" the effect in plasma and they "correctly predict' the fact that various wavelengths are affected differently and arrive and different times.
 
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Space can be warped compressed and stretched!

Space doesn't do any magic expanding tricks in the lab, and you and I both know it. Spacetime can be "compressed and stretched", but space isn't even physically defined in GR in the first place! *What* exactly (physically) in "space" is even capable of 'expanding'?

"Distance" can increase as objects *move*, but space doesn't do any expansion tricks in the lab, not ever.
 
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Space can be warped compressed and stretched!
God-Energy confirmed:

“I am the LORD, who has made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens…My own hands stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts...” – (Isa 44:24, 45:12).
 
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Space and time are inseparable. it has been proven many times that spacetime is affected by relativity. Sorry but you are wrong: Time-Warping Occurs in Daily Life | Wired Science | Wired.com
 
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Space and time are inseparable. it has been proven many times that spacetime is affected by relativity. Sorry but you are wrong: Time-Warping Occurs in Daily Life | Wired Science | Wired.com

Nobody doubts that "spacetime" is affected by objects of mass, or that objects of mass warp spacetime. You've still provided no evidence that "space" is even physically defined in/by GR theory, or that it does any magic expanding tricks separate from "spacetime". Spacetime can expand as the objects of mass expand and move, but space cannot and does not do any magic expanding tricks by itself.
 
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