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But you haven't presented anything to support your reasoning. Nothing. You've just piled assertions upon assertions and then said "disprove this!"
You're doing it again: completely dodging the burden of proof. You haven't shown that your reasoning "makes sense" of anything.Reasoning is reasoning you either believe it because it makes sense or you don't because you don't think it makes sense. You haven't attempted to give me any reasoning for your position therefore you're making it impossible for me to believe you.
I did, and only found examples more than 50 years AD, and no detail. I thought you might know some.Google it.
You're doing it again: completely dodging the burden of proof. You haven't shown that your reasoning "makes sense" of anything.
You can't make sense of my reasoning, which is why you don't believe what I'm saying to be true, but just because you can't make sense of my reasoning does not mean there isn't any truth to my reasoning and its possible that someone else might actually be able to make sense of my reasoning. Again, truth is unalterable by subjective finite beings, therefore, my reasoning could be based on truth, whether or not you can make sense of it has no effect on that truth.
You can't make sense of my reasoning, which is why you don't believe what I'm saying to be true, but just because you can't make sense of my reasoning does not mean there isn't any truth to my reasoning and its possible that someone else might actually be able to make sense of my reasoning. Again, truth is unalterable by subjective finite beings, therefore, my reasoning could be based on truth, whether or not you can make sense of it has no effect on that truth.
Nope, if an infinite timeless God does not exist then its reasonable to conclude that we will go out of existence when we die, but when you consider truth as being unalterable by finite beings then this would mean its unalterably true that we exist so how could it ever be altered to us not existing when we die?
Another dodge!
Is it perhaps also possible that you are simply wrong about what you believe?
Because you don't seem to be considering that option.
What exactly do you think I'm dodging? I'm not dodging explaining my reasoning because I've clearly done that, its just that you don't understand it, which isn't my problem. And you should reasonably know by now that I can't provide proof of God to you, so all I'm left able to do is explain my reasoning for my belief in God, which I have done, you just don't understand, which isn't my problem, as I said before.
How about you try and explain things using reason and you might see just how difficult it actually is. But I understand you're content with just waiting for proof to show up out of nowhere without you actually seeking the truth about God.
Really? If I'm wrong please explain to me how I'm wrong, this is all I'm asking!
Did you miss post #3?
If you don't have actual supportive evidence of the existance of X, then how can "reason" make you rationally conclude that X exists?
I missed the entire thread. I'm reading it backwards to avoid having to go through 29 pages.
Can anyone determine why my reasoning below with Davian is wrong? If you can't determine why it is wrong, wouldn't it be intelligent to take the same reasoning and apply it to your own life to then truly determine if it is right or wrong for you?
What exactly do you think I'm dodging?
You're doing it again: completely dodging the burden of proof. You haven't shown that your reasoning "makes sense" of anything.
Actually, it is your problem because you haven't explained it clearly. Your posts are barely intelligible. I've tried to be nice about it, but your earlier condescension persuaded me not to bother.I'm not dodging explaining my reasoning because I've clearly done that, its just that you don't understand it, which isn't my problem.
Ideas aren't valid "when they can't be shown wrong".
Don't put the word reason in quotes as if it means something other than what it means. If I have reason to believe something then I'm justified in believing it until proven wrong.
Its not an idea, its reasoning. Ideas and reasoning are not the same.
Actually, it is your problem because you haven't explained it clearly. Your posts are barely intelligible. I've tried to be nice about it, but your earlier condescension persuaded me not to bother.
Your Maker.
If as the Bible claims, you are made in the image and likeness of God, would He be in a position to determine what is right for you?
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