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The book of judges being a great testamony to that once again and let some live on.
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The book of judges being a great testamony to that once again and let some live on..... Even as the commodification of women and bodies in general continues up until our day, and in many ways has even increased, there are many of us who are ready to move on from the Codes of Hammrabi and Assyrian contracts between lord and liege....
Yes I did mistakenly read your posts in other threads including the debate and include that here. My mistakeHard for me to act smug when every post I've done has been to inform about the status of the debate. I haven't discussed the material of the debate or given any commentary whatsoever.
Projecting much?
This is not a "hard law for hard times".
This is a sick, immoral law which supposedly come from a non-sick moral god. It makes no sense.
You're completely missing the point and babbling about irrelevant stuff.
I'm not talking about job markets etc. I'm talking about women being "doomed" in that society for being a victim of a crime. Being shunned and looked down on as if she is "damage goods".
Everything you said seems to confirm that this "perfectly moral" deity of yours simply accomodates the barbarism instead of speaking out against it.
We see this throughout the OT. Like condoning slavery and even detailing laws on how to do it. Instead of simply saying people are not property.
For an "unchanging, perfectly moral being", this is ... non-sensical.
Here's my problem with this "defense": regardless if the word means "rape" or something else... it still speaks of women as if they are cattle or goods to be traded.
The entire passage shows zero respect for women and reïnforces the idea that women should sit in the back, shut up and do as told.
It's exactly what I would expect if human male's came up with these rules in a barbaric man's society.
It's the opposite of what I would expect if these rules really come from a divine being that represents perfect morality and justice.
hope you learn a bit
Jeremy has failed to point out that the initiation of the sexual act could very well have been by the female. Neither one of you address the fact that this was an honor society. Mr "scholar, author and educator," you never once give any indication of knowing what this even means. Further, you give every indication of the idea never having dawned on you because you dwell on definition of words moreso than their context. What 3 things are most important in understanding any Biblical passage? Context, context, and context. You have ignored all 3. You do stick to your preconceived ideas though.
Theophilus, you are right. I have failed to point this out but my reason was simple.
I do not need to. You see, I am being charitable to my opponent and will not push the issue that these laws we are referencing are general statutes and not mean't to be comprehensive.
These laws find their place within the large metanarrative of the OT. I believe leaving this out, we can still demonstrate that the verses in question do not legislate a rapist being able to marry his/her rape victim without his/her consent.
Theophilus said:Mr "scholar, author and educator," you never once give any indication of knowing what this even means.
Jeremy, it is considered bad taste to
Yes. I wasn't a part of that debate and helped instruct her as to his odd tactics. That doesn't pardon your behavior of calling me names. That isn't in accordance with the rules of the forum and it certainly isn't befitting of the symbol that denotes you as a Christian.
Others might report you to moderators, but I just hope you'll clean up the conduct on your own instead.
Jeremy, it is considered bad taste to way in on the Peanut Gallery while you are participating in the debate.
Also, I encourage you to cease being charitable; it isn't going well for you.
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