Paul the heretic??

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 9, 2016

Yhwh says Paul spoke with the authority granted him by Yhwh calling him and chosing him by grace in Yeshua to be a spokesman (apostle sent by Yhwh)
of Yhwh's Purpose, Plan , Grace and especially Salvation in Yeshua.

If you find fault with Paul, you are finding fault with Yhwh and Yeshua.

Paul was practically and virtually and experientially the most educated
and first-hand knowledgeable of Yhwh's Word and Yeshua's Life,
and no one today holds a candle to him. (no one is close).

The many many errors already posted in this forum/ site/ by so many
are one obvious sign of the defilement of the Truth throughout society and all the world, all mankind.

As Jesus says: "Turn to Yhwh(God), repent, have a complete change of life, to be forgiven and healed; for the Kingdom of Yhwh IS at hand."

W2L · Aug 9, 2016

ToBeLoved said:
I agree with you to some degree. But do you obey Him so He doesn't send you to hell OR do you obey Him because you love Him OR ???

You know God does care a lot why we do things. What our motivation is. How we feel about what we are doing as we are doing it.

I obey him because he is the way truth and life.

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 9, 2016

expos4ever said:
Well, regardless of issues of denomination, I think the overall Biblical picture is one where good works are indeed necessary for salvation, but it would be aslo accurate to say that they are the "evidence" that a person has genuine faith, and it is this faith which is really the basis for that person's justification and salvation.

Amein. Yes. Good.

The "rules" Yhwh gives men to live by are perfect. Whoever rejects them is lost.

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 9, 2016

ToBeLoved said:
and then taught them as well as establishing offices to run the church after he left,

This didn't exactly work out after all, did it?
Paul specifically warned one or more assemblies that the wolves were circling/ waiting/ ready to move in once he left; the wolves were ready to tear the flock apart ..... and that's what happened. No one took Paul's place, nor Peter's place, nor John's place, nor any apostle's place --- no one was able to prevent the wolves from dispersing the sheep.

Yhwh's Plan, Purpose, Salvation, is Perfect. He knew all along what would happen. It happened exactly as He knew and said in His Word all along.

Men messed up, big time.

Yhwh kept for Himself a Remnant, a testimony in every nation,
by His Own Doing, for His Own Good Pleasure.

Jesus still receives everyone who comes to Him.

lesliedellow · Aug 9, 2016

SkyWriting said:
Paul said - how long people should grow their hair.

Paul was probably only saying what everybody in that culture took for granted. After all, he asked his readers whether or not "nature itself" taught them; presumably expecting an affirmative reply.

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 9, 2016

lesliedellow said:
Paul was probably only saying what everybody in that culture took for granted. After all, he asked his readers whether or not "nature itself" taught them; presumably expecting an affirmative reply.

In that all the assemblies practiced similarly,
all the Jews had for years(centuries actually),
and Paul had the revelation wisdom and knowledge of Yeshua to
actually understand the deep things(comparatively) of Yhwh's Plan and Purpose,
yes.
Paul expected no one in the assemblies to have any different idea - it was unheard of not just for or concerning Paul, but any assembly of the followers of Jesus; and even the Jewish assemblies who did not follow or accept Jesus.(probably - hadn't thought about this before; so haven't 'vetted it )

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 9, 2016

W2L said:
I obey him because he is the way truth and life.

Amein brother --- no one else has the Words of Eternal Life !

Colter · Aug 9, 2016

ToBeLoved said:
Doesn't that sound pleasant.

Is the God of the Bible your God or do you have a different God?

Elijah and Enoch pleased God and Translated so that they did not experience death.

ToBeLoved · Aug 9, 2016

Colter said:
Elijah and Enoch pleased God and Translated so that they did not experience death.

Can you answer the question I asked.

Sundown · Aug 10, 2016

Colter said:
Elijah and Enoch pleased God and Translated so that they did not experience death.

The God of the bible .... Who is he? My response to you, tell me who is the God of the bible and I will tell you if that is him. Many do not know the God of the bible.

Strong in Him · Aug 10, 2016

Sundown said:
The God of the bible .... Who is he? My response to you, tell me who is the God of the bible and I will tell you if that is him. Many do not know the God of the bible.

The God of the Bible is revealed in the Bible.
He is our Creator, Redeemer and Sustainer, he is love.

W2L · Aug 10, 2016

Romans 11:33King James Version (KJV)

33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

Sundown · Aug 10, 2016

Strong in Him said:
The God of the Bible is revealed in the Bible.
He is our Creator, Redeemer and Sustainer, he is love.

Anyone can say they are the creator, redeemer, sustainer and love, but who is he? Do you know his name? Do you know how he is identified that differentiates him from others?

lesliedellow · Aug 10, 2016

Sundown said:
Anyone can say they are the creator, redeemer, sustainer and love, but who is he? Do you know his name? Do you know how he is identified that differentiates him from others?

There is no one page definition, or description, of God in the Bible. But there are a 1,000+ pages which talk about him, and from which an overall conception of him can be formed.

Strong in Him · Aug 10, 2016

Sundown said:
Anyone can say they are the creator, redeemer, sustainer and love, but who is he? Do you know his name? Do you know how he is identified that differentiates him from others?

There are no other gods besides Yahweh.

Sundown · Aug 10, 2016

Strong in Him said:
There are no other gods besides Yahweh.

Yes, who is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God and Father of our Lord Yeshua.

Sundown · Aug 10, 2016

lesliedellow said:
There is no one page definition, or description, of God in the Bible. But there are a 1,000+ pages which talk about him, and from which an overall conception of him can be formed.

His name is YeHoVaH and is identified as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God and Father of Yeshua.

ViaCrucis · Aug 10, 2016

Sundown said:
He name is YeHoVaH and is identified as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God and Father of Yeshua.

I suspect that this is a thinly veiled attempt to claim Sacred Namism.

-CryptoLutheran

Colter · Aug 10, 2016

ToBeLoved said:
Can you answer the question I asked.

You asked "Is the God of the Bible your God or do you have a different God?"

Answer: My God is the God revealed in the life of his Son who incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth.

Colter · Aug 10, 2016

lesliedellow said:
There is no one page definition, or description, of God in the Bible. But there are a 1,000+ pages which talk about him, and from which an overall conception of him can be formed.

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