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However, the Old Testament contained the 10 Commandments. It is these commandments that when broken convict human beings under sin, which is what would lead us to hell, but for Jesus Christ.
Also, the verse is out of Matthew, which is New Testament and the verse says 'love' covers all of the law and the prophets. Now the law is sin in the New Testament also. So sin has not changed, nor that we sin. What we now have is a Savior, an Advocate to the Father for sin and the forgiveness of sin.
So, I don't think the other person was wrong.
Ok, to be fair to you, this statement is comprehensible (despite the implication of my previous post).MERELY CALLING UPON THE NAME OF THE LORD IS INSUFFICIENT: ONE MUST ALSO OBEY THE TEACHINGS OF THE LORD- OR ELSE ONE WILL SUFFER A CAVE-IN, RATHER THAN BE SAVED.
I've been posting on the Internet for many years now, that has to be the stupidest excuse for atrocities that I have heard yet!
The Law and the Prophets omits the New Testament, of course. Or are we all Jews now?
There are at least some of us here who are quite well-versed in the Scriptures and see no contradiction between Paul and Jesus. Your post was rather rambly - can you please tell us in very concise and simple language exactly what contradictions you see between Jesus and Paul?
Jesus makes no rules about how people should behave.
At most, He say's, Love God, then behave as if you loved God.
Paul piles on a bunch more legalism bologna.
Its not an excuse, I'm trying to show you something. Death is imminent for us all. WE do not know when or how we will die. Some live to be 100, others perhaps 15, is that just? THe same God allows those things doesn't he? Is that just though? Is God wrong to let one man live to 100 while a baby dies of SIDS? IS God just in that?
We don't know why God may have commanded those things, but one thing we do know is that GOds ways our not our ways. WE will all die, and that's the only thing we can be sure of. Is that just? Didn't God promise something better? IS eternal life not better than this world of hardships? How can you say any person is worse off by not struggling with hardship any more? Its not our place to take any ones life, but surely God will take every life he has created, and its not for us to complain about it. WE should instead hope in eternal life with Him.
Ok, to be fair to you, this statement is comprehensible (despite the implication of my previous post).
You appear to think that when Paul says "All those who call on the name of the Lord will be saved", he is implicitly saying one need not live a good life.
Well, despite what many Protestants believe, I suggest that Paul is fully on-board with the necessity of obedience for salvation. From Romans 2:
Well, regardless of issues of denomination, I think the overall Biblical picture is one where good works are indeed necessary for salvation, but it would be aslo accurate to say that they are the "evidence" that a person has genuine faith, and it is this faith which is really the basis for that person's justification and salvation.The difference between the Catholic and Protestant positions is that Catholics think works are necessary for salvation, whereas Protestants think they are the fruit of salvation, or, more accurately, justification.
Well, that effectively cashes out as a set of "rules" on how to live.Jesus makes no rules about how people should behave. At most, He say's, Love God, then behave as if you loved God.
What, specifically are you referring to?Paul piles on a bunch more legalism bologna...
The difference between the Catholic and Protestant positions is that Catholics think works are necessary for salvation, whereas Protestants think they are the fruit of salvation, or more accurately, justification.
* tip toeing in .....The difference between the Catholic and Protestant positions is that Catholics think works are necessary for salvation, whereas Protestants think they are the fruit of salvation, or more accurately, justification.
Your argument is so bad it doesn't merit a reply, but if you insist. According to you the closed minded bigotry that killed Jesus was no big deal because we all die so it was "just." Killing babies is no big deal because we all die sooner or later!So instead of answering my question about what is just, you instead post a off the wall comment and a jesting image?
If people did the changing, we would need to sow.I see bad doctrine on both sides. Some (so called) protestants claim that we do not need to obey written commands at all. THey will actually accuse you of heresy if you talk about sowing to the spirit, even though paul teaches us to sow to the spirit instead of the flesh. IS the a salvation issue? I don't know and wont comment about it. I only know that paul teaches us to sow to the spirit and not the flesh. ITs something we do. WE reap a harvest as we sow. You cant have fruit without first sowing. I believe.
Your argument is so bad it doesn't merit a reply, but if you insist. According to you the closed minded bigotry that killed Jesus was no big deal because we all die so it was "just." Killing babies is no big deal because we all die sooner or later!
If people did the changing, we would need to sow.
If God does the changing, God does the sowing.
Most Protestants believe God is working in us. God does the work, we are just willing vessels willing to be worked on.
This kind of post is wrong and inappropriate for the content as well as not accurate regarding the other poster's content.Your argument is so bad it doesn't merit a reply, but if you insist. According to you the closed minded bigotry that killed Jesus was no big deal because we all die so it was "just." Killing babies is no big deal because we all die sooner or later!
Yes, I understood your lame excuse for the atrocities of the Old Testament, you said "we all die some day", so according to you how people die or weather or not people use religion to justify killing or discrimination doesn't really matter. Its a terrible excuse for bad behavior.Your own reply is bigotry I think. You haven't actually understood my words, and refuse to answer the simple question I asked. You instead just misrepresent my words, and put your own words in my mouth.
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