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Where are you seeing this exactly? Those are not positions that I hear in polite company.
 
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I agree. It is good to focus on what you can control to create a good environment. That combined with prayer.
 
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Where are you seeing this exactly? Those are not positions that I hear in polite company.

I saw the first reference to mothers and sons on Twitter and dismissed it in light of the source. But I've noticed engagements between them and 'professed Christians' and disregarded it. However similar verbiage was cropping up elsewhere. You'd see bits and pieces in trad posts and far more under patriarchy hashtags. That's where the blurring seems greatest.

It isn't influencer content. They're everyday people sharing their thoughts. I looked at their feeds too. They're married with children and tick many of the boxes from the trad camp but their philosophy is more extreme. Following them brings the others in because they're saying similar things.

There's a pattern of moral decline. Once the position on women shifts the rest moves in tandem and greater liberties follow. While men are the dominant voice women aren't silent. They're in agreement.

As for the ones I disregarded, they don't follow the Most High. They follow a self-created god who permits them to live as they please under the guise of Christianity. They're deceiving themselves. The others aren't that far gone but they'll get there eventually.

That's why I posted the spiritual roots of patriarchy. It's the same influence that's why there's overlap in the ideologies.

~bella
 
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I agree. It is good to focus on what you can control to create a good environment. That combined with prayer.

Christians wrongly assume that possibilities and positive thinking are new age concepts because they tout them. But occultists have always understood the nature of spiritual laws far more than believers and operate with that in mind. When they read the bible they know they're seeing a series of laws in action. The bible is rife with cause and effect.

For example, man was given dominion over the earth. That wasn't predicated on belief in God or Christ. It's bestowed because he's man. That's why you see references to the earth and elements in paganism. They know they have authority that's why they call them and give them directions. Much like Christ rebuked the wind. They have to heed our voice because we have authority.

The devil isn't stronger than God but his people use the bible effectively. Prayer is one of many tools we have in our arsenal. That's why I follow a biblical year. There's deeper truths you'll never hear from the pulpit but I seek them out and apply them.

You can have a beautiful marriage in this sin sick world and raise God-fearing children within it if you use what you're given. But if you're waiting on others to unpack those mysteries you'll be waiting forever.

The Christian walk is offensive. Consider that with sports in mind. What does the offense do?

Whereas most Christians move defensively. They're responding to what happened at home, work, etc. They don't get ahead of the devil and thwart his moves before they occur because they don't think strategically.

There's your hint.

~bella
 
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It is really telling when someone derails every thread with their own personal agenda. You have an obvious agenda to undermine any Christian leader of significance throughout the history of the church. Every thread you post now is an attack on someone or a group of people. It's very uncharitable and un- Christian. Your contention and pride is so toxic and destructive to everyone else here. You have essentially nuked all discussion in this subforum, because everyone is tired of arguing with you and all discussion ends. When a Christian acts like this, know for certain they are on the path to destruction and outright heresy. It won't be long before you start to deny the divinity of Christ and other core doctrines. I have seen others tread this path and it ends very tragically. You need to humble yourself and repent.

This is the spirit of pride and self- smugness that pushes the restraining and convicting presence of the Holy Spirit away. Your posts are far worse now than they were a year ago. You are so vicious in all your condemnations of church leaders and pick apart every aspect of their lives. Even the lives of those who died for the faith. Is that the spirit of Christ ? Does Christ teach us to be incapable of charity? You have essentially put yourself in a dangerous position and I urge you to repent and knock off this nonsense and crusade. As you can see, most people avoid your posts, because you are not a man of reason and you are nasty and sarcastic and passive aggressive. Maybe instead of attacking martyrs and church fathers every day, start repenting for your own behavior. It's far worse than any behavior you are condemning in others.

You mock Matin Luther and call him a false teacher that crept in unaware. Firstly, he didn't creep in stealthily. Right or wrong, Luther had guts and boldly proclaimed his views. He defied popes and emperors to stand by his conviction of the doctrine of Justification by faith
What have you done ? It's great that you sneer and criticize all these other Christians for not having every point of doctrine correct. The only reason you even have a copy of an English Bible is because of the reformers you hate on. So maybe next time while you are gleefully pointing out the doctrinal errors of others and quoting scriptures to bash them, remember you can only find the scriptures in your own language because of them. Grow up and show some respect. Stop embarrassing yourself with your nonsense.
 
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